The Hawaii Five-O Home Page Guestbook -- February 2010



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H1F, Firstly, mahalos for sharing your personal financial history once again... whew. Secondly, I am not tearing mainlanders down. I am trying to prop up what mainlanders are tearing down.
My posts are not, nor ever have been "written to hurt or ridicule anyone". If that is the collateral damage, just by my sticking up for Hawai'i, so be it. Not the intent at all.
Anger? Commensurate with what is being expressed that may do more harm than good for Hawai'i, (seen below). Why no protestations at this anger and negativity?

"Nobody has anything against a new series in Hawai'i "
(and sorry, Nadja, but I beg to differ:)

"HaHa... I can see it now... the new Five-0 has been cancelled"
"Well, Rick, that news would be music to my ears... As I (and others) have said, Jack did it right the first time, so leave well enough alone. "
"I'd be standing right next to all of you protesting the hell out of it too."
"CBS is betraying the memory of 1.0 that is all. "
"this will be panned and ridiculed by purists and critics alike."
"Go ahead and make this show. Just don't dare call it "Hawaii Five-O."
"I cannot get excited about a new version. It's a 99% chance of failure. Five-0 was more than just great stories and characters in an exotic location, it was a product of its time. It was groundbreaking. It had a flavor that cannot be recaptured. I have NO interest in watching a new Hawaii Five-0. "
"No true fan will watch more than 5 minutes of it"
"I think this is a needless remake."
"Two things that are making me less interested in this remake:"
"Bad...very bad. More tripe. "
"Five-O is a classic and I cannot believe CBS stupid enough to try to make a new series. I for one will always watch the original, not some copy cat with no personality."
"I am personally not going to hold my breath on a remake of Hawaii Five-O being a success."
"I do applaude CBS for trying, but sometimes things should be left alone."
"The true fans of the show will stick to the DVD's being released, and enjoy and cherish the originals. No one but no one can fill Jack Lords shoes"
"i don't think the producers "get it"
"Seems Hollywood is creatively bankrupt"
"bad things make me cringe enough to want to run screaming into the night."
"names of characters from a classic TV show of a bygone era is suicide for this or any show"
"Well, it sounds awful. It's a reimagining, not a continuation"
"I am sick over what this has de-evolved into since Benero departed.
Just let the old show rest in peace. It was what it was, and like most remakes, the remake will never be what the original was."
"about the new show. Grave concerns"
"Alex ... CBS has "booked" him into yet another fine mess."
"I will not watch the new show."
the new show, i won't tune in to"
"I'm not too excited about the new series... they have a long way to go to live up to the original.
"this is a needless remake"
"It's just another crappy TV show which will soon be forgotten."
"Well, let's make a stink about it, then,"
"Coconuts to you there, pineapple face!"
"This has disaster written all over it.."

Sure everyone's entitled to an opinion, just as I am... but dayum. Judge, jury and executioner, even before no hypothetical crime has been committed! Give it a chance. Back off on the prejudice.
And H1F, I don't believe they 'taped' H50. I really think it was on film.

Kimo
- Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 23:05:39 (PST)
Kimo, knock it off! You're doing Hawai`i more harm than good with this anger. Each of us is entitled to our opinions, just as you are entitled to yours. Yes, Hawai`i needs 2.1. We've all agreed to that fact.

You got to watch them tape 1.0? Wouldn't I love to be able to make the same statement, but I can't, because I couldn't afford to go to Hawai`i back then. Instead of tearing down us mainlanders, celebrate the fact that you actually get to live there and watch them film these programs and, hopefully, have some input in making 2.1 the best that it can be. A most enviable position to be in. Celebrate it!

Let us all celebrate Five-0 and Hawai`i as we know them. No, we do not know them as you know them. One can only have that perspective if he/she has lived there for a lifetime. Again, you are in an enviable position. A perfect position? No, but we aren't in a perfect position, either. My husband just came out of 8 months of unemployment (no fault of his own), and we sold our house at a $20,000 loss. No trips to Hawai`i for us for a long time to come. But we keep on keeping on. We fight the anger and depression that threaten to consume us by focusing on positive activities. You do the same with your work to make 2.1 the best it can be.

Sorry, Mike.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 21:43:57 (PST)
"I hope I love the remake. But what if I don't? Should I watch it faithfully just to support the ratings? "
No, Not at all. No one suggests false adulatory actions. But I don't see the point of others or anyone proclaiming there should not be a remake in any way, shape or form, or speaking against some business venture here in Hawai'i, just because so and so can't be replaced.. or especially because: " 1.0 wasn't perfect, but we feel that it was ours, and we feel possessive/protective of it."
Well. How about those that actually witnessed from two yards away, every week, the show being created, the actual shoots of the eps. How what of those that live here and know the ohana of the actors? What of those that know intimately, each and every street, hill, alley, store, hotel, beach, landmark, town, etc. that the original H50 photographed vividly and used as foreground for each ep? What of the kama'aina who had a part in the show? What of the fans who see it not just as another cop drama, but as a eulogy to "Old Hawai'i", a fantastic nostalgic look at our home (get that? OUR HOME) that we knew and loved and still love? Even tho these local fans never lifted a pen to type a word of fan fiction using Danno, Kono, et.al., and made up stories that sound as if it's placed in Petaluma, or Massachusetts, or any other mainland setting?
What of the countless locals who feel an affinity to H50, who had ohana working on the original and are now in a position to work as extras, grips, transportation, craft service, props, anything... on the new show... So. Wot. It wasn't OURS? We are less possessive /protective of it? Tellya what. We are MUCH more protective of it. And We here... have more of a right to say it is ours. That we possess it. As we had a part in its creation. And, we will have a part in creating the new show, notwithstanding negative attitudes that, yes, locals can and will take personally. And you claim personal attacks are being made towards those furriners that don't want a new show because you can't "replace Lord".
No personal attacks, I believe were made. Respectful attitudes displayed, proportionate to the respect displayed towards our home, our local show and our future local show which affects our future.

Kimo
- Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 21:13:25 (PST)
"Kimo, you can make your point without acting ugly to those of us who aren't particularly happy with the way 2.1 is coming together."
I am commensurately ugly as the comments and attitudes towards H50 redux.

"Hawaii needs the economic boost of a hit show, but certainly we want to it be worthwhiie. "
No one can know or judge if it will be "worthwhile" Any heapings of negativity or pissy attitude towards h50 #2 can do harm. No one owns a crystal ball. If they do, they got had. Toss it out, and help, rather than hinder the creation of the new show.

One must understand how personal one may take the attitude of mainland haoles claiming we should to ANY degree, not have a Hawaii based crime drama shot here on a regular basis. You can bisect it or rationalize it or excuse the negative sentiments that anyone can read here regarding H50 #2, but the fact remains, there is a disproportionate and possibly damaging attitude towards it. You better expect locals to take it personally.

Kimo
- Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 21:07:18 (PST)
"Some have suggested that we let go of 1.0" - "let's also accept that some of us (and I'm among the worst of them) have trouble letting go of all things old and familiar"
I have been on these Mr Mike chat boards for a few days now and don't remember this being suggested. Ever.
"I still haven't accepted that Kono left"
Gilbert made an anti semitic comment and the Lord said off with his head. Gilbert continued working steadily in clubs here and happily also did some bit parts in other TV shows... He moved on. You must also. It is important to keep things in perspective. Else, fantasyland will soon come crashing down and you may find it hard dealing with the cold hard reality that is just outside your door and on the other side of your keyboard.

Kimo
- Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 21:06:37 (PST)
H50 Forever, now I can relate to never getting over Kono leaving! On a more serious note, I just think everyone should be able to express an opinion about the show or remake without having to endure any personal attacks. Of course, you and Barbara both already said that. Most people here are respectful. That said, my opinion is that yes, Hawaii needs the economic boost of a hit show, but certainly we want to it be worthwhiie. We want it to wear the "Hawaii 5-0" name proudly. Can you imagine the traffic on this site immediately following the first episode? We'll need a lottery system! LOL!
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 20:30:20 (PST)
We all have our opinions and our expectations regarding 2.1. Perhaps, we have been too vocal, since, as you pointed out, Barbara, none of us knows much about what to expect. Still, on the whole, we're pretty loyal to 1.0. A lot of the vocalizing arises from that. We all know 1.0 wasn't perfect, but we feel that it was ours, and we feel possessive/protective of it. Some have suggested that we let go of 1.0 and allow ourselves to accept 2.1. That's probably very wise advice. Whether we're ready to do that is another matter. I suppose each one of us will find acceptance in our own time.

In any case, we all know and accept that Hawai`i needs the business that 2.1 will bring. Tourism has fallen astronomically in the past two years due to the sagging economy. Hotels are operating at 62% occupancy, which is very low. When C and I were there last September, the catamaran on which sailed to see the dolphins was only about 1/3 full. Only about half the tables were occupied at the lu`au. This, in turn, puts many people out of work, people who rely on tourism for an income.

Furthermore, as tourist purchases have declined, so has tax revenue. As employees have been laid off, tax revenue has declined still further. And, so, Hawai`i and its cities and counties are hurting financially, as well. When we were there, Mayor Mufi Hanneman (Honolulu) was struggling to find ways to keep going on such drastically reduced tax revenue. He probably still is.

The week that C and I were in Hawai`i in early April 2008, four airlines went bankrupt (Aloha, ATA, and two others). We had been scheduled to fly ATA but had changed our reservations to fly on American. Good thing, too. Word was that it was going to take a week to get all of ATA's passengers back to the mainland. So, we're coming up on two years since this all began.

So, yes, let's support 2.1, but let's also accept that some of us (and I'm among the worst of them) have trouble letting go of all things old and familiar, including 1.0. But, then, I still haven't accepted that Kono left at the end of Season 4.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 19:17:01 (PST)
Dear Barbara in Chicago, rest assured I wasn't referring to anything you had posted. I agree about feeling bad when postings do get personal. I just had to add my two cents because I know Viginia's heart is always in the right place! BTW, you wondered if you had articulated what was in your head. You articulated it beautifully! I get exactly what you were trying to get across. Very well said!
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 18:45:54 (PST)
Hey Barbara in Pittsburgh...This is Barbara in Chicago. I don't like when postings are written to hurt or ridicule anyone. And my comments were not directed at any one individual. I can't keep up with who thinks what about anything! I just wanted to put out there that no matter what happens with the new series, it will never be the same as the old. Information is dripping in slowly and we all comment as it comes in. I even posted about sending a letter to the CBS Entertainment President when we weren't comfortable with the character descriptions came out. And I wasn't so sure about Alex O'Loughlin at first but I've watched some of his past work and I think he will do great. But it bothers me that some people have repeatedly bashed it and continue to do so without even knowing all the details or seeing a single episode. If the show turns out to be a flop in one's opinion, then that's fine as I'm sure they won't watch any further......Anyway I meant no offense to any individual.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 18:18:18 (PST)
I feel I have to get in here. H50 Forever's heart most definitely is in Hawaii. I don't think one can judge loyalty and affection by whether or not someone agrees with the concept for a remake of a TV show. Give Virginia a break! Besides, TV is not just a business but is entertainment. Aren't we allowed to say whether we would find something entertaining or not? I hope we do like the remake. In fact, I hope I love the remake. But what if I don't? Should I watch it faithfully just to support the ratings? Now there's a thought!
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 17:20:22 (PST)
I hope this comes out right because I'm not trying to bash or offend anyone. I was in favor of the Ed Bernero concept of the remake because he wasn't trying to "replace" any of the characters. He was trying to continue the story in modern times while paying respect to the original series. And we all know that his heart was definitely in the right place. However, that ship has sailed. CBS did not go with that concept. And while I am not completely thrilled with all that I am hearing about the new show ("turning the old series on its ear"), I am excited to see what they do with it.

Anyway the point I would like to make is this. Suppose it was possible for the original actors to still play their original roles BUT do it in today's era of television. Would everyone be happy?? It seems that "replacing" the original actors/characters is something that a lot of folks are having a hard time with. But the show has to be updated or it wouldn't fly in today's market. Furthermore, is this really such a bad thing? We are lucky to have the original series available to us on DVD so enjoy them.

I just read what I wrote and what is in my head isn't exactly coming out the same as what I wrote. But hopefully you will get the point. There is no way this show will be the original again. And every once in a while I read things that tell me that some of the folks behind this project actually do want to pay homage to the original. But there is no way they can please today's market with yesterday's scripts, etc. Oh, well, I had better stop before someone starts bashing me. Hopefully some of you will get what I mean.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 16:03:01 (PST)
Kimo, you can make your point without acting ugly to those of us who aren't particularly happy with the way 2.1 is coming together. I have said before (as have others) that a remake that was true to (or at least respectful of) the original would suit us much better.

We do not want to see Hawai`i lose business, either in the film industry or the tourism industry. If we could drive more business your way, we gladly would. My hope is that my website will generate enough interest in Hawai`i (as well as in Five-0) to prompt a few people in that direction who otherwise might not have made the trip.

I have been over twice in the past two years and would live there if I had half a chance to do so. I love Hawai`i and have for most of my life. I don't see a trip over this year (no leave time for my husband), but not a day goes by when I don't make the trip through my writing, revisiting the pictures C and I took, and working on the website.

If you want to know how I discovered Hawai`i, when I was ten or eleven years old, look up a comment I left on the "Star-Bulletin's" fifty years in pictures layout. It took me 49 years from then to get over there, and it did not disappoint my very great expectations.

So, yes, my heart is in Hawai`i, but let's make a GOOD Five-0 remake that stands a chance of lasting long enough to do the islands that much-needed good.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 15:02:59 (PST)
Oh Kimo, calm down. I think you're getting a bit harsh here. Nobody has anything against a new series in Hawai'i or against it that people getting work and employment. I, and I think not only me, really wish for a show and all the useful and important things that come with it. We just won't happen our favorite show destroyed, that's all.
Nadja
Berlin, - Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 14:58:41 (PST)
"H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI "
Your heart is not in Hawaii. Your hate is in Hawai'i.
If you want people to think your plasma pumper was left in Hilo Hattie's last trip here, then do what most people in Hawaii who really, actually DO have their heart here, do. Get behind this next Hawai'i based television show, and support it. Hawaii'i wants and needs this. The world does too. especially those countless teeming millions who enjoyed a one hour mini vacation each week with H50 back then. And channel choices on our TVs could use more variety also.

Kimo
- Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 14:31:45 (PST)
"re-runs, which are too often shown out of sequence. How could this be solved?"
Why would anyone think this incredibly irrelevant manini thing is the responsibility of the original producers of a TV show? This is a non issue. Nothing to be "solved".

The producers of H50 redux with their new baby will create revenue for CBS and gainful employment for countless hundreds of people. Why also would anyone to any degree be against another business starting up and trying to be successful? Why this animosity towards something that will entertain millions around the world and hopefully bring us here in the islands, more tourist revenue and jobs for many here. Especially in a down economy.
No one is re-placing Jack Lord. He HAD his place. Now he is DEAD. Get it?
Time for another TV show based in Hawaii.
I have never seen such myopic jealous pettyness.

Kimo
- Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 14:05:54 (PST)
What Rose said. You go, girl!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 06:16:25 (PST)
There will never be another Hawaii Five-0 and no one will ever replace Jack Lord! I enjoy watching the original show
on one of our local cable stations - "book em Danno!"

Rose Sica
Norristown, Pa USA - Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 05:02:30 (PST)
who cares. we go for the fast buck.
Kimo
- Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 04:33:53 (PST)
The concurrent plot lines that run over to subsequent episodes is, indeed, good for program development - - until,it comes to re-runs, which are too often shown out of sequence. How could this be solved?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 04:28:57 (PST)
Dan, you'll be sorry you asked:
Remember that short lived cop drama titled "Hawaii"? It had 3 or 4 concurrent plotlines. wrapped up at the end of each ep. The contemporary mindset/attention span needs something like this. My fave; Burn Notice, has two storylines going on each ep. Sometimes one of them continues thru a few eps. that makes it very interesting and more of a requirement to tune in next week for the culmination, the payoff to the cliffhanger. Even better if/when they continue one of the storylines and yer left hanging, but you have uh... closure with the main story. That is good television, circa new millenium.
This leads me to my point, the answer; Have 3 or 4 different Wo Fat characters. One middle east. One russian. One nebulously oriental. One haole. The haole could be a disgruntled CIA mercenary who knows all the tricks. been done before yea, but it's a good meatrack to hang alotta stories on.
each one, as with Wo Fat should have many evil characteristics but still retain and display some endearing qualities. Make one or two of these evil geniuses incredibly intelligent and very respectful of his worthy adversary, McGarrett, while at once, being wholly consumed in one goal focussed on one job only; to take down McGarrett and squash the evil amerikkkaner empire, claiming victory for "his side and allegiance". In fact a little 007 can be justifiably inserted. have one of these evil crime warlords the head of something like SMERSH or whatever.
The general format could be 6 to two or 5 to 1. Some international. But Mostly local Hawaii based crime storylines, local mafia and the local club scene. (I know all the bands and clubs here... that would love to be atmosphere for eps like this...). - a band of Druggies that live out Haleiwa side threatening to drop ecxtacy in the watersouce. - fairly dormant volcanoe possibly ready to blow with the help of some bent explosives expert with a major government blackmail angle ... A heroin or cocaine conduit based out of a chinatown bar, owned by a government bigwig's daughter or son... (wow. that's a good one.)
Some wacky university professor, incredibly intelligent but very wayward in his or her... political leanings, there is a real threat he is generating a mass of subservient student/worker contingency to take over the local government via long trained "moles" in various government and university and political positions of power... who knows. the writers will come up with storylines appropriate to our island... I hope.
and among these local based plots, now and then an international Wo Fat thang with Hawai'i being a base or focal point...

Kimo
- Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 22:00:12 (PST)
Who should be cast in the recurring role of Five-O's arch nemesis Wo Fat? How often should he show up on the new series?
Dan
South Brunswick, NJ USA - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 20:04:42 (PST)
editing is L.A. . I won't do any complaining. just offering local expertise to make it 10% better. The little difference makes all the difference.
Kimo
- Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 20:00:04 (PST)
Good, Kimo. Now, all we need is someone like you in the editing room. That's where a lot of the errors came in.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 19:45:36 (PST)
yes, that's my kuleana now. Continuity, proper placename and local word pronunciations, glaring errors, prevented... anachronisms avoided... appropriate details added to make for authenticity... prop master/set decorator kokua, location scout help... da whole luau.
Kimo
- Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 18:10:45 (PST)
So, Kimo, have you offered your services to the 2.1 suits? They're definitely needed. No doubt about it. Also, please see if you can do a bit about continuity - leaving in a blue suit, showing up in a gray suit, etc.

So glad you and our dear islands are well tonight.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 17:53:12 (PST)
Nadja wrote:
"From how I know Kimo he gripped his camera and stood as near as allowed to get it all on film ;-)"

This is funny because as I was watching CNN, they showed a lone man walking the empty beach just minutes before the tsunami was supposed to hit. Honestly, Kimo came to mind and I thought about how this seems like something he would do. Experience life (?) to the fullest!

Seriously, glad all is well with you, Kimo.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 17:19:58 (PST)
Tanx, Nadj!
and apsropos of nothing, here's a wacky fun Hawai'i video site.
Check out how the furriner pronounces Iolani. Eye Oh Lanny. and other placenames...
http://www.travelskoot.com/skoots/view/1186-best-art-and-culture-in-hawaii
Why.... Kee.... kee
Bernice Pow ah Hee.
Voice over haole sez: Duke Kaaa Hanna Mocha!
http://www.travelskoot.com/skoots/view/1189-best-nightlife-in-hawaii
see; this is is the kinda thing what may happen with H50 redux, if they don't grab me as their technical consultant!

Kimo
- Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 16:29:31 (PST)
Not to milk it or make a big deal outta it, but with 50 reported aftershocks at the Chile epicenter, the various Polynesian islands are not fully out of the woods yet. tsunami incidents happen in pulses and series. who knows what next... if anything.
Kimo
- Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 16:21:41 (PST)
It's okay Kimo, you went through a lot today... ;-)
Nadja
Berlin, - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 16:19:20 (PST)
well that was a weird city state in my previous! I didn't write that. Mr Mike, poltergeists are adding things to posts!

Kimo
- Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 15:57:28 (PST)
well that's the first time I hear sirens across the land at 6 ayem. In my sleepy stupor, first thought the neighbors were playing some new age music too loud....
Yep. a little Hawaii 5-0, a little shakespeare, a little 50's sci fi movie.
Much ado about nothing, during the day the earth stood still while we wait for the four to fourty foot high killer...
The tsunami is the martians in the spaceship. What will it do next if anything?
The apprehension and mere presence such as it is, makes our locality a ghost town; freeways empty. Everything closed. save for the Shack. Longs. One chevron gas station, (three businesses) here in Hawaii kai....
Maunalua Bay is dead glassy. (between Diamond head and Koko head. ) One boat out there. harbor patrol in mouth of our big lagoon, keeping the gate closed as it were... Don't notice much of a rise in the sealevel here.
Waikiki tourists told to evacuate... upwards. third floor or higher in hotels. No hanging out at the beach, or on Kalakaua ave.
Most businesses reportedly closed there. can't and won't venture to Waiks; will get chased out.
Already on higher ground. but those who are on lowground, sealevel, can't go anywhere. roadblocks everywhere.
Sure hope Sunday is back to normal. Got too many things to do.
Positive thoughts to our Hawai'i ohana did it. mahalos.

Kimo
High, and kidneys and sandy luau feet are in Dry - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 15:54:39 (PST)
Okay, let's make it: it seems it turned out well and that I'm glad for.
Reminded me a little of "Forty Feet High and It Kills!" Fortunately nobody come to grief.

Nadja
Berlin, - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 14:56:40 (PST)
From how I know Kimo he gripped his camera and stood as near as allowed to get it all on film ;-)
But I'm really glad it seemed to turn out well for them there.

Nadja
Berlin, - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 14:39:54 (PST)
A serious moment. Prayers for all in Hawaii; Kimo, i hope all turns out well buddy. And, yes prayers for any of the new Five-O production crew as well. Keep safe all.
KD MCG
Tampa, Fl with prayers... - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 13:43:00 (PST)
Praying for those in Hawaii. Tsunami expected to hit in next few minutes. Watching live news shots and things look so peaceful right now. Hopefully it won't be as bad as anticipated.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 12:48:22 (PST)
Another change for Kono. His name has been changed to Kalakaulau. This is a good thing. After all, Kalakaua is the name of dearly beloved King David.

Re: the tsunami alert, the ETA has been pushed up from 11:19 (HST) to 11:05 (HST) and could possibly be pushed up some more. Please pray for our Hawaiians and, indeed, everyone in the Pacific Rim.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in Hawaii, today more than ever, - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 10:26:12 (PST)
Another problem: Where are the native Hawaii residents? One of the justifiable sources of pride for the original series was the casting of locals in the primary cast - Zulu, Kam Fong, Herman Wedermeyer, Harry Endo, etc.

Loving hands aren't working on this one, that's for sure.....And I wonder whether CBS execs are trying to put the kibosh on any Rose Freeman/George Litto plans for a Five-O film, since the network lost that battle.

On a different subject......Prayers for the people of the Pacific Rim after that 8.8 earthquake in Chile early this morning. Hawaii is under a tsunami warning.


Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 10:02:49 (PST)
Are producers so dumb they cannot make a show in HAwaii without stealing Hawaii Five-O. Five-O is a classic and I cannot believe CBS stupid enough to try to make a new series. A memo to the producers and CBS management - Look for a job that you can have that does not require brains.
I for one will always watch the original, not some copy cat with no personality.

JOnathan Palmer
Las Vegas, NV USA - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 09:25:40 (PST)
Bad...very bad. More tripe.
KD MCG
Hawaii, wow no - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 07:57:30 (PST)
Two things that are making me less interested in this remake:

1) Bad guys are Russians
2) Cars reportedly going to blow up

Sounds like "24"!

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 07:22:18 (PST)
Is this good or bad?

I don't know anything about this actor...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ifa3e60e2b52e2281f6d8dbccb8fc9261

Mr. Mike
Only 2 More Days!, BC Canada - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 07:14:00 (PST)
The more auditions i see and the dialogue i hear just reinforces the idea that this has absolutely nothing to do with Five-O. Basically,as Orci and Kurtzman say "take a preconceived idea and turn it on its ear and you have something compelling." So, this,to me means:

Mcgarrett: From the hard edged to the namby pamby metrosexual MCG. Danno-from being handsome becomes more disheveled and haggard;Kono from the heavyweight and burly to the lithe and health conscious and to boot a female. Governor Jameson becomes let me guess Paula Jameson. The language becomes more colorful than it ever was-words like "ass" were hardly ever used. There is so far nothing in this mess that appeals to me. The music will likely be jazzy and rock orchestrated.

This is NOT Five-O but reminiscent of Miami Vice and not the series either the gritty movie. The curator of James Macarthur's website says it's a good script, so far it is not Five-O in any way shape or form. i said that it was CSI:Honolulu and I am probably going to be proven right

KD MCG
Hawaii, no way! - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 06:45:35 (PST)
"Park will play Kona Kalakaua, the niece of squad member Chin Ho Kelly, played by "Lost's" Daniel Dae Kim.......Kono is a beautiful and smart champion surfer who is about to graduate from the police academy when McGarrett recruits her to join his team."


It appears that maybe they are changing the name from Kono to Kona. From the above quote from the article, it does say "Kona." However, the next reference says "Kono." Maybe that was habit that the writer wrote "Kono" because I can't believe the producers would really think that the audience would accept a female in the original Kono role.


Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 06:34:04 (PST)
"Here's another actor auditioning (very loudly) for the role of Danno...ugh."

Hey, Jeff: Actually I really liked the audition. Thought the actor did a good reading....for any other cop show. But as Danno, no way. He is too old and too gruff looking. I pictured James MacArthur saying those words and thought it would have made a great scene between him and McGarrett. So, I hope they find a younger-looking actor to play "Danno."

Note: It was interesting how they worked in the explanation on how "Danno" got that name.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 06:23:24 (PST)
I'm sure the Hawaiians are relieved to know that Kono's surname has been changed from Kalakaua (as in King David) to Kalakaulau. Using a royal name surely must have rankled in some quarters. Interesting that they are not changing "Kono" to "Kona" and saying she hails from the Big Island and that her family has grown coffee for more than a century. That would make a good storyline, don't you think? It would provide an excellent opportunity to add a bit of Hawaiian culture to the program.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Saturday, February 27, 2010 at 04:59:11 (PST)
Here's another actor auditioning (very loudly) for the role of Danno...ugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9kyeF0gE2Y&feature=related

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Friday, February 26, 2010 at 23:46:25 (PST)
The new Kono has been cast, and she's a hottie...Grace Park from TV's "Battlestar Galactica" (and FYI, Kono is now the niece of Chin Ho).

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ifa3e60e2b52e2281a3c058b2af6207e0


Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Friday, February 26, 2010 at 23:14:38 (PST)
Re: the biographical data on Steve McGarrett in "Death is a Company Policy," it's just another instance of inconsistencies (the fan fiction writer's nightmare), and there are many throughout the series run. Besides, it doesn't explain McGarrett's distinctive Brooklyn accent. Do people in LA sound like people from Brooklyn? LOL Also, re: the real brain in the investigation, Chris Lahani, if you look at his grades, they are sprinkled with some B's and C's. Where are all those oh-so-impressive A's the detectives talk about? Hm...??? Dare we hope continuity will be an improvement in 2.1 over 1.0?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, February 26, 2010 at 15:24:16 (PST)
Hello fellow followers of Hawaii Five-O,

That's money. I might rip-off that greeting. ...And Sylvia hit that one out of the park. Nice.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, February 26, 2010 at 14:01:48 (PST)
As far as I know, Steve McGarrett's father and mother never had first names on the original show that he spoke out loud.

But Mike Q has mentioned, in his review of the Season 5 opener, "Death Is a Company Policy," that on the DVD copy of the episode, when you see all the information the Iron Brain spews out, you can see names for Steve's parents (John and Doris) on the forms.


Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Friday, February 26, 2010 at 12:37:07 (PST)
Hello fellow followers of Hawaii Five-O,

I am looking for some help about what McGarrett's father's name was?

If you know or can help PLEASE let me know, thanks.

I know there is a conversation about it in season11 episode13 'Number One with a Bullet, part 2'

But as you know not out for sale yet, please help, thanks.

Sincerely, hoping to,
Complete Storyline

Complete Storyline
LA, CA USA - Friday, February 26, 2010 at 12:06:26 (PST)
Thanks Big H. Just seems like humor runs a little thin here sometimes and thought that was 'on topic'. I find myself laughing throughout most episodes. Stuff that was not meant to be funny but it sure is to me. Especially McG himself ...did I just say that?
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Friday, February 26, 2010 at 11:55:01 (PST)
A strike force vehicle blown into the air in Hawai`i? I don't think so. When a siren sounds, more than likely it's an ambulance en route to rescue a tourist who jaywalked and was struck by a car. Almost never is a police car seen speeding down the street. An exception was a gray Mercury Marquis seen speeding Koko Head on the Kalaniana`ole Highway.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, February 26, 2010 at 11:47:11 (PST)
I think it's time to break this out again...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4HS2cJHVlg

Rick...I had not seen that clip, so thanks for sharing it...that was RICH!!! The "wave" in the hair was too much. Glad we can all have a lot of fun with this topic....

Big H
ral, nc usa - Friday, February 26, 2010 at 09:10:52 (PST)
From Reel Hawaii:

The Five-0 pilot reportedly will include a large number of second unit filming and special effects, including land and water chases and a Striker Force vehicle (s?) that’s blown into the air where it spins around violently, several sources said…The Five-0 production is still locking down locations but has rented half of a large warehouse for sets in Mapunapuna near where NBC’s Hawaii TV series had its stage set…

Wow, this sounds like James Bond not Five-O and that is why i always questioned why they named it Five-O? It is however heartening to learn that this is a "wait and see" rather than a pre-sold deal which may possibly be aired only to CBS Executives. hmmm..




KD MCG
Bond, oo five-0? - Friday, February 26, 2010 at 08:52:28 (PST)
I love my book em danno me! ooohhhh buttttyyyyy!!!!!1
ADAMSKI
Rhondda, wales - Friday, February 26, 2010 at 05:55:13 (PST)
Ok, KD. I guess I'll have to scratch you off my list too. I mean I'm turning down celebrities here like Jack and Zulu...lol. So yeah, sorry KD, who are you again? By the way, I've really got this impressive jaw-bone that the mirror has an affinity with. Just throwing it out there guys :-)
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, February 25, 2010 at 11:38:47 (PST)
http://tinyurl.com/ylbwuly
KD MCG
so, who's Danno? - Thursday, February 25, 2010 at 11:10:03 (PST)
http://www.timryansreelhawaii.com/?p=3525
KD MCG
Was, kidding Ringfire - Thursday, February 25, 2010 at 10:59:37 (PST)
It's ok ringfire-i wouldn't want to sit and have coffee with you either; i prefer non-judgmental people-that's just me!

No offense!lol..

KD MCG
Hawaii, Five O - Thursday, February 25, 2010 at 10:41:23 (PST)
Ringfire, I happen to like Bill Ryan's art. I've seen several of his works and find them to be quite refreshing in their simplicity of style and light colors - in contrast to Jack's art, which is strong and bold. So, yes. I am interested in Bill Ryan, as well as John Ryan. Now, why don't you tell us what you plan to discuss with Jimmy and (maybe) Kam. Okay?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, February 25, 2010 at 08:54:20 (PST)
"first ask Zulu how he feels about it." - Didn't like haoles, did he? Oh well - his loss. Guess I'm scratching Zulu off my tea party list. Just Jimmy, Kam, and me then. Errr... ok, just Jimmy and me.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, February 25, 2010 at 08:17:08 (PST)
LOL, H50FOREVER!! You seriously want to know what Bill is up to? LOL! No offense, but I can't for the life of me figure out why you would be interested in "Bill". Heck, I don't even know who Bill is. I guess my knowledge doesn't go that deep into Jack's personal life. That would be like me wanting to ask Sean Connery what his brother Seamus is up to. Mind you I just made up that "Seamus" name - I have no clue about Connery's siblings nor do I have any interest in them.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, February 25, 2010 at 08:14:06 (PST)
I would love to sit down to tea with Jack and Marie. It would need to be at a time and in a place where Jack's mind wasn't on trying to put out an episode.

I would love to talk to him about his art and about Christian Science. He read avidly about CS; did he practice it or was he merely looking for alternative explanations and viewpoints? I'd like to know.

I would like to know what it was like growing up in Brooklyn with four siblings. I know Bill was an artist and achieved a fair amount of success at it. I would like to know what became of the art school he and his brother established. Josephine taught on the university level - English, wasn't it? No doubt, their father's teaching them poetry influenced her, too. But we know nothing about Robert and Thomas: What did they do with their lives? We know that Bill was married and had at least one child, a son, David. What about the others? Were they married? Did they have children? What are they doing?

I would like to know about Jack's experiences while sailing around the world aboard freighters and, later, with the Merchant Marines. I read that one of the ships went down and that he nearly lost his life. Is that true? Was he injured? Badly?

Did Elvis really invite himself over and ask for something to eat? LOL

I would like to ask Marie about her childhood. I only know that she was born in St. Louis, Missouri, to French parents. Did she grow up there, or did they return to France?

I would like to ask Marie about fashion design. What was it like, going to France to study? Did she design and make the colorful aloha shirts that Jack wore? When they went out, they often were color coordinated, often in pink. Tell me about that.

I would like to ask Marie what she did to fill the long hours when Jack was working? What suggestions could she make to help me fill the long hours when C is away working? How did she keep from becoming angry and resentful? Did she get cabin fever when they stayed in to avoid the paparazzi?

And on and on. I could sit and talk to them for hours! Oh, how I wish I could.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, February 25, 2010 at 04:36:06 (PST)
Kimo...LOL. But I think that is it always with people that such things go two ways, isn't it? And nobody knows really how Jack was as a friend than as a workmate or colleague except his friends. I like to think he was dedicated in all things he did and that includes friendship. And as a friend I would like to have a tea with this guy ;-)
Nadja
Berlin, - Thursday, February 25, 2010 at 02:36:31 (PST)
"would want to sit down and have tea with the guy. Zulu Yes.?"
first ask Zulu how he feels about it.
(assuming he were still around)
he didn't like haoles.

Kimo
- Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 18:53:31 (PST)
Oh, I love Jack Lord because he gave us McGarrett. Doesn't necessarily mean I would want to sit down and have tea with the guy. James MacArthur? Yes. Kam? Yes. Zulu? Yes. But Lord? Sorry, just not seeing it. I like easy-going people. Jack doesn't fit the bill. Sorry.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 17:19:27 (PST)
Re: Chris and Ringfire's comments about our worshipping Jack Lord... I think you're being too harsh. After thinking all afternoon about what you wrote, I just don't think it goes too far or in such inappropriate directions. Rather, we have known Jack as McGarrett for more than 40 years. We liked him as McGarrett. We aren't ready, willing, or perhaps even able to give him up as McGarrett. It's not like he played the role for a year or two, then was not seen again. Five-0 has been showing in re-runs for more than 30 years. We haven't been asked or forced to forget either Jack or McGarrett. McGarrett has been with us every day of those 40+ years. He's a member of our families.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 16:15:38 (PST)
...and another one in "Paniolo" by Frank Kuakua (season 3).


Nadja
Berlin, - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 14:59:16 (PST)
Hi, Nadja! I did notice that. In fact, I think one of the pieces, boats on a Mediterranean-like shoreline, might have been painted by Jack's brother, Bill Ryan. I'll go back and take another, closer look and see what I see now that I'm more aware of Jack's art. Thanks for the tip.

Re: Sirone Mondrago's bullet, you're right! Then, there was one that caught McGarrett in the arm in "The Two-Faced Corpse" (Season 7).

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 14:28:27 (PST)
Hi, Nadja! I did notice that. In fact, I think one of the pieces, boats on a Mediterranean-like shoreline, might have been painted by Jack's brother, Bill Ryan. I'll go back and take another, closer look and see what I see now that I'm more aware of Jack's art. Thanks for the tip.

Re: Sirone Mondrago's bullet, you're right! Then, there was one that caught McGarrett in the arm in "The Two-Faced Corpse" (Season 7).

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 14:26:42 (PST)
@H50 1.0 FOREVER Did you notice the art of Andrew Duncan in "Highest castle, deepest grave". Could be that some of Jacks pieces are among them, don't you think?
Nadja
Berlin, - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 13:34:46 (PST)
Even though I'm not an US citizen and thus not in for the free DVD. Sirone Mondrago from "Highest castle, deepest grave" put another one into him.
Nadja
Berlin, - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 13:27:42 (PST)
Do you mean shooting incidents or bullets that penetrated? Joseph Trinian sank three bullets into him.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 12:00:20 (PST)
How many times (in twelve seasons)was McGarrett shot?.....If you have the answer than you can get your your DVD winner!
Henry P Tercyak
North Haven, Ct 06473 - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 11:23:23 (PST)
Never watched "Moonlight" with Alex O'Loughlin. Just wanted those who are interested that the SyFY channel is playing about 6 "Moonlights" in a row today. I'm guessing that they do this weekly on Wednesday mornings. I will have to check it out. I've been watching while I am at home working and I know that no one will ever replace Jack Lord but I think Alex O'Loughlin will do well. Just my humble opinion.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 11:11:17 (PST)
argghh..using the phone for this so whoever said tt the reply is to them. Danny Dyer hmmm..well, again their interpretation so yes he looks like the dishevelled Danno.
KD
Hawaii, this gets crazier! - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 11:08:59 (PST)
I meant @Ringfire gee...apologies!00

Die Hard. Well, it suits this remake, because it is by the producers own admission pure action,procedural and a little Miami Vice.

KD MCg
Hawaii, 000 000 - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 11:03:34 (PST)
Danny Dyer is apparently on the short list for the roles of Danny Williams. Filming starts next month so I would expect there should be lots of announcements about casting in the next week or so.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2010/02/24/danny-dyer-set-to-remake-of-classic-70s-cop-show-hawaii-five-o-115875-22065973/

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 11:01:34 (PST)
@Rick. Yes Jack Lord was as human as you and i and no doubt he had his failings, but my point is one of my own perspective and it is something that i see just like when somebody says "oh, doesn't so and so look like..." and we can agree or disagree; it's in the eye of the beholder.

Thankfully, we live in a democracy where we can choose to voice our opinions :)

KD MCg
Hawaii, ooo ooo - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 11:00:16 (PST)
WOW!! Len Wiseman (Kate Beckinsale's hubby) set to direct the pilot? Well, I loved "Live Free or Die Hard" but then again that's mixing apples and oranges. Five-0 is no Die Hard. I'll see it but it can't match the original.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 10:57:23 (PST)
Looks like they have a director for the pilot episode.

http://www.movieweb.com/news/NE9rf9caRoCrca

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 10:53:09 (PST)
I think it's time to break this out again...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4HS2cJHVlg

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 10:22:31 (PST)
"I think the deification of Lord that goes on on this site borders on the ridiculous. People act as if he's the second coming" -- I pretty much agree with you on this, Chris. I've already mentioned in the past that Jack was far from perfect. Although he may have wanted people to think that he was. And he obviously had a serious superiority complex. To claim that he was the nicest man in the world is just being blind. By all accounts he had a terrible temper and difficult to get along with. Now having said that, I totally loved him as McGarrett! Behind Jack Bauer on 24, he's my second favorite TV character of all time! And I was the first one to point out that the remake wouldn't work (even when Ed Bernero was still onboard). I dislike remakes of any kind! I never saw the need for another Five-0. That said, I'll take issue with the Cary Grant statement. I actually had to chuckle a bit, Chris, when you said that in the looks department Lord doesn't measure up to Grant. I'd say he blows Grant out of the water!! I never saw the appeal in Grant at all. But what really bothered me about him was his prissy attitude. UGGGHH!! He spoke with this nasal voice and he always seemed to whining. I found Grant to be incredibly annoying. He was like a gossiping old lady. No offense, old gossiping ladies :-) Give me someone manly like Lord or Connery any day. Heck, Roger Moore came across more manly than Grant. Just my 3 cents...
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 10:05:29 (PST)
"he was irreplaceable as the ORIGINAL Steve McGarrett because his rendering is indelible, twelve seasons and thirty years of distance will do that, but there are plenty of actors out there who are talented enough to create a new interpretation that might even equal Lord's." I agree with that statement, Chris, esp the last part, but the thing is....from the tone of this site, I don't think the 5-0 purists here believe that the right person has been cast for McG II.
Big H
Ral, Nc USA - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 09:41:47 (PST)
Seriously, Mike, all kidding aside, if you need help with this, I'll remove myself from the competition and lend a helping hand.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 08:50:07 (PST)
I like Rainbow Warrior's idea. Go ahead and draw the questions from your analysis pages. There's so much information there that anyone who goes digging through will work every bit as hard as you do. Then, of course, there will be a trick question or two just to separate the wheat from the chaff (sp?). Go for it! Or, take the easy way out and just send the prize to me! LOL
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 08:22:22 (PST)
Yeah, but if I have to "make up" the trivia quiz, it means I have to like WORK!! As well, I would probably just grab the trivia items from my "anal-ysis" pages, where anyone could find them, so that is no fun...

Mr. Mike
Trivia , BC Canada - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 08:14:47 (PST)
Mr. Mike,

I would run a trivia contest for the free DVD. List ten questions about Hawaii Five-O that only the most worthy follower would know, and the person that gets the most questions right gets the free DVD. No one knows the show like you do, so I'm sure you can come up with ten questions about the show that will show who deserves the DVD the most. The knowledge that everyone here has about the show is so deep, that I'm sure that you will have some worthy contenders. In the case of a tie, you have one last tie-breaker question.

Rainbow Warrior
New York, NY USA - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 07:04:51 (PST)
I would pick the first person who responded to your post!
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 06:52:41 (PST)
I was surprised to get an e-mail from some person who is doing PR for the upcoming release of Season 8 on DVD. This person wants me to run a contest for a free copy of this DVD set. But how to do this? Should I get people to e-mail me and then put their names in a hat and pull one out? Or should I just scroll up and down the recent Guestbook postings with my mouse (not looking at the screen) and then (also not looking at the screen) stick my finger on the screen and the person whose posting I touch gets the prize? This contest would only apply to people in the USA, by the way...
Mr. Mike
Olympics are almost over!!, BC Canada - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 06:46:46 (PST)
Jack Lord looks like Brad Pitt or Cary Grant? Sorry, KD, I don't mean to offend, but I think you might be looking at the man through rose-colored glasses. He was a nice-looking guy, sure, but not exactly pinup material, at least by today's standards. He was hirsute, his face was gaunt, almost skeletal, and his hairstyle was a bit, um, over the top. Again, I hope I don't offend anyone, but I think the deification of Lord that goes on on this site borders on the ridiculous. People act as if he's the second coming of Laurence Olivier. Let's face it, Lord was a good actor, not a great one. He was great as McGarrett because the role played to his strengths while rarely exposing his weaknesses. I'm not sanguine about this remake business, either, but this idea that Lord is irreplaceable...he was irreplaceable as the ORIGINAL Steve McGarrett because his rendering is indelible, twelve seasons and thirty years of distance will do that, but there are plenty of actors out there who are talented enough to create a new interpretation that might even equal Lord's. Off-camera, I'm sure Mr. Lord had his failings, he may well have been the self-appointed demigod that his collaborators made him out to be. If so, why not face reality? None of us knew the man, yet many people who post on this site act as if they did. Obviously, I'm a Lord fan, but I'm more a fan of the show than the individual actors. The bottom line, despite his surname, Lord was a human being. No sin in that. And that's MY two cents' worth.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 06:24:36 (PST)
Re: AO'L looks more like Nicholas Cage than Jack Lord... That might well be the producer's goal: to find someone who is a polar opposite, so to speak, and to make the show a polar opposite of 1.0. That is what frightens me most of all, for that would be unforgivable.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, February 24, 2010 at 04:15:22 (PST)
Mr. McLoughlin looks more like Nicolas Cage than Jack Lord. I really hope the producers abandon their plans to remake Five-O. Just wouldn't be the same.
Kent Byron
Portland, OR USA - Tuesday, February 23, 2010 at 18:41:31 (PST)
True. Actors and characters are different. Having said that, i found one thing about Alex O' that reminded me about Jack and that was how he manages to be a man of many faces. Jack sometimes resembles Brad Pitt;in some photographs, he looks more Cary Grant or Chuck Connors. Having looked at his work, i did notice Alex O' has that as well. He can really create a look. I am not saying that i have jumped ship to Five-O 2.0/1/1//or whatever, just an observation.


KD MCG
HAWAII, FIVE O - Tuesday, February 23, 2010 at 18:35:27 (PST)
And, now, my two cents worth:

Confusing actors and the characters they portray. A previous poster and the author of an article re: the remake seem to have this problem. The poster said they were going to have a hard time finding an actor to equal Steve McGarrett. No. They will have a hard time finding an actor to equal Jack Lord. The author said Taryn Manning had been chosen to play Alex O'Loughlin's sister. No. She has been chosen to play Steve McGarrett's sister.

Again, this is only my two cents worth.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, February 22, 2010 at 18:47:32 (PST)
Just my 2 cents. There are no actors that will be able to replace Steve McGarrett and at the same time please all the fan out there. What the producers have to do is end the series as it should have been done. Let that series be. We all like what was done. So do it again with the same location (Hawaii). Keep the name (Hawaii 5-0) and the general idea of the show. Change all the actor name or have a new twist on that. Hire actors with new faces. People that are not known. Make something completely new based on the old. Just like Star Trek. They did new series but they did not reuse Capt Kirk in all the series. As for myself I would look to the new Hawaii 5-0 but I am not sure to be a fan as I am now if they try to duplicate the original cast. I will throw some ideas around about the remake. Keep the intro, the palace location and all the surrounding. It has to be film on location. I know it would be very difficult to do and accept for us fan but I would kill all the original staff on an exploding boat at sea in the first minute of the new show. We do a real fast forward to present day. We see the door of the 5-0 office with the name of the new 5-0 boss. Surprise it read McGarrett. We see the second in command getting up from his desk and running in the office to discover that the new boss is a woman who is in fact the child of McGarrett. The information that is brought in is information concerning the killing of her father 30 years ago. She openly says that is a personal matter but thanks him again. After that the intrigue continues and she receives a call from the governor who wants to see her. During that first emission we meet everyone. Like I said I was throwing ideas. In closing I think it is a good idea to bring back that series and I am confident in the producers to take good decisions to make a good series that outlast.
Stephan Marcil
Quebec, Qc Canada - Sunday, February 21, 2010 at 18:25:11 (PST)
Well, Rick, that news would be music to my ears, although not for the reasons cited. As I (and others) have said, Jack did it right the first time, so leave well enough alone.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, February 21, 2010 at 11:58:34 (PST)
HaHa... I can see it now... the new Five-0 has been cancelled. The producers reported that "The audience wouldn't accept an Australian actor as an American, or a Korean actor as Chinese, they wanted actual criminals to play the part of criminals! It was unreal." Taking over the time slot will be the remake everyone has been talking about, producer Steven Bochco's rebooted "Cop Rock 2.0"
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Sunday, February 21, 2010 at 09:47:53 (PST)
A Korean playing a local Chinese man. hmmm. well, I suppose that would work just fine, as most americans consider "they all look the same, those asian people"... If he can pull that off in front of us locals, that ain't acting. that's GREAT acting.
Same with Alex's accent. We want to see him not only drop his Aussie accent, but pick up and convey a grasp of the local vernacular to convey that he is a kama'aina. Cuz he ain't malihini in that level of law enforcement. Not here.
( he does that, it ain't acting. its very good acting. many don't do that. but they call themselves actors. )

Kimo
- Saturday, February 20, 2010 at 18:29:47 (PST)
O'Loughlin had little trouble getting rid of his Aussie accent when he played a cop on The Shield. It's called "acting." By the way, Daniel Dae Kim, who spoke only Korean in the early episodes of Lost, described his Korean language skills in real life as "rusty," despite the fact that he was born in Pusan (his family moved to the USA when he was very young). He had to learn how to polish his Korean from his female co-star Yunjin Kim.
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, February 20, 2010 at 16:11:26 (PST)
On a tight shooting schedule, trying to purposefully "Include geographical blunders" will not happen. As I have said many times before, H50 was never a guide for tourists to learn how to get around Oahu. They used shots and placenames, street names as they deemed fit, to keep the action going. much of it didn't make sense to us locals, but we were no more than amused by it, since it wasn't a vehicle of the Hawaii Tourism Board, but a Hollywood product.
"like showing McGarrett driving along Kalakaua Avenue and saying he’s heading for the airport"
That could have happened back then as in the early days, Kalakaua was two way. Nowadays... if he happens to be on Kalakaua, he can still head towards the airport. it's just that he's gotta go a block or two and double back. Or maybe he's headed to Kapahulu and then the onramp going ewa! who knows, who cares.
"don't Cast locals only as heavies. "
they didn't back then. and hopefully they will do the same as they did then, now: cast locals as heavies and as detectives on the team, and regular bit part actors.

Kimo
- Saturday, February 20, 2010 at 15:16:22 (PST)
Kimo i agree with your views. I also wondered if Kimo could be a female name as well. Wayne Harada makes excellent points.
KD MCG
Tampa, FL USA - Saturday, February 20, 2010 at 10:14:39 (PST)
AMEN TO THIS ARTICLE!!!
_____________________________________________________

DO'S AND DON'TS FOR "HAWAII FIVE-O"
Posted by mizzoH on Friday, February 19, 2010

Wayne Harada at HonoluluAdvertiser.com expects that the new Hawaii Five-0 will be a boon for Hawaii and its economy, provided the show is handled correctly.

Actor Daniel Dae Kim and the writing/producing team of Orci, Kurtzman and Lenkov are listed among the pros. Alex O’Loughlin, however, is apparently somewhat of an unknown factor to him, as Mr. Harada states that “he has to curb his Down Under accent”, but “he’s kind of a young hunk, which makes him marketable” .

According to the columnist, there are some absolute Dos and Don’ts for Hawaii Five-0 redux:

5 THINGS ‘FIVE-O’ SHOULD DO …

* Keep Morton Stevens’ “Hawaii Five-O” theme song in the opening and closing credits.
* Film entirely in the Islands, taking advantage of the landscape and people.
* Include geographical blunders — like showing McGarrett driving along Kalakaua Avenue and saying he’s heading for the airport, or mixing up mauka and makai. (We adore these blatant miscues; it’s been part of the show’s charm).
* Continue the stable of secondary characters: Danny, Kono, Ben Kokua, the governor.
* Preserve the “Book ‘em, Danno” classic line, from McGarrett to Danny Williams.

… AND 5 THINGS IT SHOULDN’T — EVER

* Cast locals only as heavies.
* Abolish recurring roles like Duke and Truck.
* Relocate the “Five-O” headquarters from ‘Iolani Palace — the only monarchial palace with historical roots in the U.S. — to a modern-day edifice.
* Neglect familiar Island and Mainland actors — it’s comforting to see guest faces we know.
* Throw nonsensical Hawaiian names, like Kalanikanakaolemauka, into the dialogue.

— Wayne Harada, Special to The Advertiser

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Saturday, February 20, 2010 at 09:47:16 (PST)
"can't wait for season 8 episodes. this television series was truly one of the best ever produced; it's really hard to believe that (anyone) would try to re-make "five-0', as the actors involved with the original "five-0" were truly top-notch professionals, who not only created their characters, but they made you believe they were "hawaii's finest".many thanks to jack lord, james macartur, kam fong, and all the other fine actors who made this show the memorable classic, that it will always be!, and, thanks, cbs, for sharing these wonderful episodes with "five-0' fans, all over the world". "MAHALO!"
thomas parnell
dallas, n.c. usa - Friday, February 19, 2010 at 22:08:46 (PST)
Alex O'Loughlin. = Danno
Michael Shanks = Steve McGarrett.
some local looking vahine = Kona Kalakaua (IF that)
Kono is a very... very improbable first name for a girl.

actually if they are going to change things so kapakahi, they may as well have a local looking play the lead or play danno, at least.

Kimo
- Friday, February 19, 2010 at 17:25:39 (PST)
"Did anybody see this? Interesting that Alex O' speaks about discussing the role for a year. "Best fitting role" so far; perhaps from their re-interpretation not mine.
KD MCG"

Alex got his work cut out for him. Not ONLY will he be required to drop that Auzzie accent and adapt a haole/mainland American accent, he has gotta, on top of that, develop some local inflection into his speech, something, it is painfully obvious, was missing in the original show. But "that's hollywood for ya". Mainland transplants cannot emulate the local vernacular, our distinct unique dialect... in real life, it takes years. Nor does it or did it seem particularly important for shows' producers/ directors to have that missing element covered, to get that little but important degree of realism of our idiom right... or even hinted at. I am also referring to all the other Hawai'i based dramas that have come before. Magnum PI. Marker. Hawaiian Eye. et al.. I mean just because nationwide, (and across the globe) viewers wouldn't maybe notice it, still, unconsciously, people would pick up on it. It's one of those imperceptible subtle ingredients that bump up a tele-vision series a few notches in quality when they go the extra mile and strive for all elements to be in place. I know locals of course, knew the difference. And that is something they should maybe want to try to get right. So as to have the enthusiastic support of Hawaii's population behind it. One of the best badges of honor for H50 redux. The rest of the world then would be impressed and back it all the more, one would think.
Alex is an actor. He can and will do this language thang. It behooves him to. Or he is no actor. Hugh Laurie/House does it well. And bottom line, they sure as heck better know it is very unrealistic to have a top cop in Hawai'i display a heavy east coast accent. Auzzie accent. British accent. whatevah. Locals wouldn't support some malihini suddenly jumpin to the top of the heap in a majorly important local position. Besides. It just doesn't work that way at all here.

Kimo
- Friday, February 19, 2010 at 17:08:50 (PST)
http://www.cinemaspy.com/article.php?id=4006

This was fun. This is possibly what he will look like. I also feel people are correct that the one minute title opening might not even happen. Also, the theme might not even be there a la Star Trek movie-yes it was there, but not as prevalent.

KD MCG
Here, we are - Friday, February 19, 2010 at 15:01:28 (PST)
Did anybody see this?

Interesting that Alex O' speaks about discussing the role for a year. "Best fitting role" so far; perhaps from their re-interpretation not mine.


http://insidetv.aol.com/2010/02/12/the-show-girl-anthony-bourdain-alex-oloughlin-jlo-stephen-merchant/

KD MCG
why, am i back? - Friday, February 19, 2010 at 14:52:56 (PST)
Just watched “The Two-Faced Corpse”… How did Five-O isolate football player #44 in the team photo
as a person of possible interest, prior to contacting the FBI? I believe it was done with the intention of testing the audiences’ level of awareness
….In addition I think Jack Lord forgot his line and add-libbed (spelling?) “what the HELL was his name”, referring to Bocher, during the meeting on Five-O’s theory.

Henry P Tercyak
North Haven, CT USA - Friday, February 19, 2010 at 11:20:55 (PST)
It was, of course, season 6, sorry. But it was the opening with Ben.
Nadja
Berlin, - Friday, February 19, 2010 at 10:53:23 (PST)
I did watch the season 7 ep "Tricks are not treats" yesterday and on dvd it's the usual season 7 opening with Ben in it. So, it has to be a thing the channel did.
Nadja
Berlin, - Friday, February 19, 2010 at 09:00:26 (PST)
"This Alex cat just doesn't show any of that "middle aged maturity" that the role of McG demands." -- Geez, now they're casting cats in these roles??!! And here I always thought this new show was going to the dogs. Meeeoooww!!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, February 19, 2010 at 08:15:31 (PST)
I watch Hawaii 50 on WFMZ, Channel 69 out of Allentown, PA. It airs every week day @ 3:00. They are currently showing Season 6. I found something odd about the episode named "Tricks Are Not Treats".

The opening credits are from one of the first few seasons as Kono is shown. Has anyone else noticed this? I didn't see anything about it on the website so I don't know if it's something that Channel 69 might have done.

Joe
Lawrenceville, NJ USA - Friday, February 19, 2010 at 06:18:41 (PST)
Yesterday on the radio I heard a voice that caught my attention. It was Officer Sandi Welles... "This is Amanda McBroom and you're listening to The Best of Broadway on SiriusXM." Click on 'Amanda' for a short bio http://www.amcbroom.com/ Quite a departure from (light comedy) acting.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Thursday, February 18, 2010 at 17:28:01 (PST)
"Also the character of Steve McGarrett was an impeccable detail oriented police officer, played as a middle aged gentleman. We surely don't want a young version of a wannabe running around Honolulu." Bruce has really touched on the problem with this McG casting. This Alex cat just doesn't show any of that "middle aged maturity" that the role of McG demands. This is what is needed to make this whole thing believable or it will never get off the ground (translation: one season and done). It's gonna be like a 30-something newbie who should in reality be on the HPD force, instead of running 5-0.
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Thursday, February 18, 2010 at 09:12:28 (PST)
No reports yet on who will be cast as Danny Williams. I hope the character will be given a bigger spotlight this time than James MacArthur was last time. And my vote would certainly be someone like Ricky Schroeder. He has that young face like Danny and he definitely has acting chops. There should be some announcement soon since it is reported that they will start filming in March. Hopefully they are really taking their time to find just the right person for that role who will complement Alex McLoughlin.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, February 18, 2010 at 06:23:51 (PST)
As far as the opening, I watched a bunch of episodes a few years back on bootleg DVD's, it's possible the opening was chopped out... I think it was around season 8 or 9. I'll check it out when time allows.

I too wonder if they'll spend a full minute on the new opening, it seems there is no attention span for such things these days.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 at 16:19:56 (PST)
HAS ANY DECISION BEEN MADE REGARDING WHO WILL PLAY THE DANNY WILLIAMS CHARACTER IN THE REVAMPED HAWAII FIVE O TV SHOW? SO MANY NAMES HAVE BEEN TOSSED AROUND. I HOPE WHO EVER IS CHOSEN, THAT IT WILL BE A GOOD FIT ALL AROUND......THANKS.
CGREEN
Farmington Hills, Michigan USA - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 at 15:35:01 (PST)
Also, dialogue was mixed in with opening credits sometimes going quite a few minutes into the show. "Highest Castle, Deepest Grave" and "Didn't We Meet at a Murder" come to mind. Both from season 4. But the Five-0 theme always played, eventually.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 at 09:09:57 (PST)
Regarding Hans' question as to whether any episodes aired without the opening credits, I am positive every single episode featured the traditional opening credit sequence. The first 4 seasons always featured a story teaser prior to the opening credits, and then in syndication in the later seasons, some feature-length episodes like "Murder-Eyes Only" and "Nine Dragons" featured about 10 minutes of story before the opening credits, while from seasons 9-12 each show started with a :30 commercial teaser for the episode. Also, two-parters traditionally featured a recap in the second part prior to the opening credits.

It will be interesting to see if the new series features a 1-minute opening credit sequence, in this day and age where most shows do not feature any at all, or a very truncated (i.e. 10 second) opening sequence.

Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 at 08:51:18 (PST)
Was there ever an episode of H5O that did not have the opening sequence?

I'm almost certain I recall an episode that just started with the show while the credits ran, no opening and no theme song.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 at 08:16:33 (PST)
AOL Television/Inside TV is reporting that Taryn Manning (Hustle & Flow) will play Mary Ann McGarrett in the coming series. This doesn't sound good, fans...

http://insidetv.aol.com/2010/02/16/tv-casting-laurie-metcalf-strange-brew-taryn-manning-hawaii-five-0/

Jerry
New York, NY - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 at 08:08:14 (PST)
"after watching season 7 episodes on dvd, i can only say that this police drama only got better as time progressed. with this classic series, you get to see great performances from many actors who are no longer with us.please, continue to give us more episodes of the best t.v. cop show ever! long live "hawaii five-0"!
thomas parnell
dallas, nc usa - Tuesday, February 16, 2010 at 20:41:10 (PST)
#223 Deep Cover
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, February 16, 2010 at 14:30:43 (PST)
Does anyone know the name of the episode where McGarrett plays an undercover Naval Submarine Officer, during the 10th-12th season. My boat, U.S.S. Puffer SSN652 was used as the back drop of one of the scenes and I can be seen briefly.
Thanks

John Vincenti
North Kansas City, MO USA - Tuesday, February 16, 2010 at 14:14:25 (PST)
Michael Shanks looks like a brother of Alex O'Loughlin and seems to be the same age. Where could be the interesting contrast between McGarrett and Williams. It doesn't work for me. But in fact, nothing works for me with this new Five-O.
Nadja
Berlin, - Monday, February 15, 2010 at 23:00:38 (PST)
Couple interesting items:

1) Michael Shanks auditioned for Danny Williams (might not be a bad choice):

http://www.cinemaspy.com/article.php?id=4006


2) Additional casting call info:

http://www.spoilertv.com/2010/02/hawaii-five-o-additional-casting-calls.html

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Monday, February 15, 2010 at 12:19:41 (PST)
Ann - I found the auditions on youtube via this link:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hawaii+five-0+auditions&search_type=&aq=f

I loved the original 5-0 (well, the 1st six years); I'm receptive to a new version but like many on here am doubtful it'll be approached correctly. We'll just have to see..

Steve
UK - Monday, February 15, 2010 at 07:12:47 (PST)
Chris Noth is actually working part-time on the highly watchable CBS series "The Good Wife."

And if CBS is making programs like that, why in heck would they need to bring back Five-O?

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Sunday, February 14, 2010 at 10:59:45 (PST)
Speaking of Law & Order alums named Chris(no, I'm not being biased), Chris Noth is another, he's a bit more glib and low key than Lord, but is the right age, and has the same kind of look, and as far as I know has no commitments at the time. Like Melloni, though, he's a New Yorker through and through and probably wouldn't want to commit to a full series filmed so far away from home. Not that it matters at this point, anyway, this is all hypothetical. I'm not familiar with the work of the guy they hired, my only beef is that he looks a little young.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, February 14, 2010 at 05:52:09 (PST)
In terms of actors to portray McGarrett, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Chris Melloni. Of course he's tied to SVU(unfortunately, because that show should have gone off the air a few years ago), but he definitely has a lot of the qualities people here are looking for in a McGarrett, and would bring a large number of female viewers to the show. The only thing he lacks is Lord's monolithic hair, but is that really such a bad thing?
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Sunday, February 14, 2010 at 04:19:47 (PST)
I have been reading the posts and everyone is making a comment about seeing the auditions. Where can I find this? I would be very interested to see.

ann
new york, ny usa - Saturday, February 13, 2010 at 20:57:19 (PST)
I really would like to know whom the producers are going after as an audience here?? Certainly not adults, that watched the original, knew the tight writing, incredible stories, and brilliant acting and music. Are we once again going after the bubble gum chewing blonde teenagers, that normally would be glued to the CW or to 'E' ?? They really need to go back to the drawing board and rethink this if they want it to stand a chance. There are too many other choices for adults to watch, and unless it is trully captivating, with GOOD actors, I doubt many will stay tuned for more than 10 minutes. I for one will not watch even the pilot, as the auditions seemed rediculous, and it seems they want to make a mockery out of Hawaii Five-O and its core audience.
McGarrett is Great
Colonia, NJ USA - Saturday, February 13, 2010 at 17:32:20 (PST)
Thought this was interesting. My bad if it's already been posted and/or on Mike's Five-0 home page...
http://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2009/07/23/007hawaii-five-o-connections/


Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, February 13, 2010 at 16:50:34 (PST)
Well, I watched the auditions, and I'm not as upset as some people, maybe because I don't have all that much invested in the new series to begin with. The guy auditioning for Danno isn't so bad, at least he looks a little like James MacArthur. I definitely would pick him over David Morse, who is far too old and doesn't have the look, although he is a terrific actor. MacArthur was something of a teen heartthrob at the time, I remember my older sister had a crush on him, and this new actor appears to be in that mold, despite the accent which will probably be watered down by the time of production. As for Kono as a woman? The jury is out. I'm all for female characters, but as another poster said, it seems odd to use the name Kono for a character who bears no relation at all to the original, why not just give her another name, and why make her Chinese instead of Hawaiian? I hope there are some major characters who ARE native Hawaiian, who can give the show what Kono gave it, authenticity, and a bit of an edge. At any rate, I'm not counting the days. I might watch two or three episodes to see if it grabs me, but I doubt very much I'll be planning my week around this new series.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Saturday, February 13, 2010 at 10:00:59 (PST)
Aloha! After viewing an episode, I quite enjoy the synopsis/trivia section. I wish to point out that for episode #80, it was Danno, not McGarrett, who spoke the line "I thought the computer was a policeman's best friend". This site is by far the very best of those devoted to retro-TV series. Keep up the execellent work. Mahalo!
Anthony
Fair Oaks, CA USA - Saturday, February 13, 2010 at 05:55:36 (PST)
Lets see, Kono is now a woman, Chin-Ho, although dead, (season 10 'A Death In The Family') has been revived and lost age and weight as well. Will Jenny Sherman be played by a male actor?? Whoever dreamed this up should quit while they are ahead. They have tried nonsense like this before, with Kojak, a bomb that lasted maybe 7 episodes. I do applaude CBS for trying, but sometimes things should be left alone. Having had the thrill of watching the original show in first run as a teenager, I find it impossible for anyone to fill the shoes of Steve McGarrett, other than a family member of Jack Lord. I watched some of the audition posts on youtube, and I must say, pathetic. Actually I consider it an insult to the true fans of the original series. Let us have all the DVD's of seasons 1-12 and enjoy the best and the real thing. There are far better actors out there to play Steve McGarrett and Danny Williams, than the two yo yo's that are auditioning. If this is what the production company thinks of Hawaii Five-O, then let them shelve the idea. No true fan will watch more than 5 minutes of it anyway, as there is nothing entertaining about a silly drama, that is poorly written, and more importantly, pathetically acted. The original cast has nothing to worry about..If this junk lasts beyond the pilot in its present form with present cast, it will be a miracle. If CBS does choose to air this, I for one will pop my dvd of Cocoon in, and treat myself to the real thing..As for another poster who said the audience waited in 1968, Jack Lord had already made a name for himself on James Bond. It was a hand in glove fit in casting him to play Steve McGarrett. We had already been treated to a brilliant performance in Dr. NO................
Bookem Danno
Las Vegas, Nv USA - Saturday, February 13, 2010 at 00:09:14 (PST)
Having watched those YouTube screen tests, what really makes me wary aren't the actors - I suspect they won't be chosen - but the words they're saying. If that's the pilot script, it sounds terribly cliched.
Sylvia
Pembroke Pines, FL USA - Friday, February 12, 2010 at 15:57:57 (PST)
While I don't know about Mrs. Freeman, I DO know that Mrs. Lord has passed away.

I think that both of them (alive or otherwise) however, would be willing to wait and see, just as the world was willing to do so in '68.

ajohar
Irondequoit, NY US - Friday, February 12, 2010 at 15:30:46 (PST)
I am personally not going to hold my breath on a remake of Hawaii Five-O being a success. For a die hard fan of the original show like I am, yes I grew up on Jack Lord, these are mighty tough shoes to fill. And if the producers bother to check, Chin-Ho was killed of in season 10. Also the character of Steve McGarrett was an impeccable detail oriented police officer, played as a middle aged gentleman. We surely don't want a young version of a wannabe running around Honolulu. I really would be curious to hear what Mrs. Freeman, and Mrs. Lord have to say about this. Myself, I doubt whether either one will be watching. The true fans of the show will stick to the DVD's being released, and enjoy and cherish the originals. No one but no one can fill Jack Lords shoes....At least not in my book......
Bruce
Las Vegas, Nv United States - Friday, February 12, 2010 at 15:20:15 (PST)
Ah, my comment on "this generation"...I meant the ones that didn't get to see Jack Lord when the show was originally shown in the 60s and 70s. My generation was the baby boomers, and I was 12 when the show was first on the air. I know a lot of fans that weren't born before 1980.

As to Alex O'Loughlin whom we now know is going to play the lead...well, all I can say is yeah, Jack Lord had a failed series too, and his fans stuck it out with him. He got Hawaii Five-0 and the rest is history as they say. I would just hope that H50 fans give Alex a chance. If ANYTHING comes out of this for those who are unhappy about the remake, it's that maybe we'll get our Season 9 through 12 DVDs of Jack RIGHT AWAY instead of this infernal waiting.

I want the show done right as much as any H50 fan. I'm hoping the remake will stimulate a revival of interest in the old series; I'm already working on threads on our Alex O'Louglin site telling them about this site, for example, since they are scrambling to learn about the original show.

I loved Jack Lord...I love Alex O'Louglin. To me, this is like chocolate meeting peanut butter. I hope others will feel the same when they actually see the new pilot in May.


Pam (Gothmyst)
Los Angeles, CA USA - Friday, February 12, 2010 at 13:11:58 (PST)
"Let me get this straight, Big H. You complained about shows from the 80s for being bad/cheesy (Knight Rider, T.J. Hooker) but you enjoyed THUNDERBIRDS??! Lol... WOW!!" Yeah, but I was MUCH, MUCH younger when I was enjoying the T-birds!! (i.e., I was too young to know any better!!)
Big H
slippery , when wet.... - Friday, February 12, 2010 at 12:20:28 (PST)
"A female will NEVER pull off Kono's character no matter how much you use your imagination." This should tell us that CBS is not targeting this remake toward the H50 die-hards and purists, but rather to a completely new audience who doesn't know who the original Kono was any more than they know the backside of the moon.
Big H
Snow is headed, Our way AGAIN!!! - Friday, February 12, 2010 at 12:15:16 (PST)
Thanks for your reply, Pam. I figured that you are no "youngster" as far as your years of age are concerned.
Isn't it great, that we,and I think many of us won't see
30 or 40 or 5-0(?) again, are so enthusiastically involved
and agitated about a TV copshow??? (Of course, it's not A
TV copshow but THE TV copshow).

Great words, H5-0: a GLARING error (concerning McG's car);
that truely shows HOW involved we are.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Friday, February 12, 2010 at 10:28:06 (PST)
To Mike P.
You are absolutely right. I don't doubt that it could be a runaway success. I phrased it badly. What i meant was the i give it a 99% chance of failing to capture the flavor of Five-0 that made it interesting to ME. As for breaking new ground, the original was the most violent show of its time, often highlighting the lurid and depraved. In these times, the new one will be hard-pressed to shock us as the old one had.

Rick Ho
New York, NY USA - Friday, February 12, 2010 at 08:34:32 (PST)
Some person comments at the EW site re O'Loughlin's being hired:

I think this is a needless remake. And to cast a guy who’s never had a show make it past one season? That doesn’t seem like a good sign.

Duh! Obviously never heard of "Stoney Burke"!!
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Olympicworld - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 06:58:45 (PST)

____________________________________________________

Aye, "Moonlight" could be Alex' "Stoney Burke". I've been reading all the comments and of course I understand the "WTF!?!?" feelings people have about anyone taking over Jack Lord's role.

Bottom line. I'd say, watch it. Just give a few episodes, once they are out there in May 2010, a look. If ya hate it, fine. If ya like it, fine. If I didn't love Jack Lord so much I'd say it's going to be perfect because I love Alex. But since 1) CBS is making it and 2) Steve McGarrett IS being recreated...why not give it a chance.

And on that note, oh, Steve's girl, honey, I meant by "this generation" one that didn't watch the show live in the 70s. Still in the womb. I was 12, and I'm 53 now. Only in age, though. I worked for Christopher Lee, the British actor who was in Lord of the Rings as well as being famous for Dracula, and I can tell you at 87 HE'S a kid as much as I am. I think Jack Lord was incredible, and I hope...I HOPE...Alex and the new guys will make their own version, and people will go "what about the original" and buy up the DVDs the way I am. I want Amazon to hurry up and get the rest of the dang series out! 8...why not 9-12 NOW!

The more Hawaii Five-0 fans now, maybe more nostalgia and information and fun from the original for us.

?


Pam (Gothmyst)
Los Angeles, CA USA - Friday, February 12, 2010 at 08:29:56 (PST)
Looking forward to a return of the show. As far as comments on a remake would not work I would like to say look at the return of the show Battlestar Galatica.Many said it would never work,well they were proven wrong and the show was one of the highest rated tv shows during its run on the SciFi Channel.
Mike Peterson
Phoenixville, Pa. USA - Friday, February 12, 2010 at 06:37:55 (PST)
It seems this new show is weighing heavily on the minds of die-hard Five-0 fans. As a big fan of the original show, I cannot get excited about a new version. It's a 99% chance of failure. Five-0 was more than just great stories and characters in an exotic location, it was a product of its time. It was groundbreaking. It had a flavor that cannot be recaptured. I have NO interest in watching a new Hawaii Five-0.
Rick Ho
New York, NY USA - Friday, February 12, 2010 at 06:23:19 (PST)
Monty, allow me to correct a glaring error: It was not a Mercury Monterey. No chance! (as McGarrett would say). It was a 1968 Mercury Park Lane, which I adoringly call "The McGarrettmobile."

Here's the lineup of triple-black Mercurys that appeared on the show:
1967 Mercury Marquis (2-door hardtop) - used in the pilot episode and in stock footage taken for the pilot episode
1968 Mercury Park Lane (4-door hardtop) - used in Seasons 1,2,3,4,5,6, and part of 7, as well as in stock footage thereafter
1974 Mercury Marquis Brougham (4-door hardtop) - used in part of Season 7 through Season 12. It is not to be mistaken for a Marquis sedan (with a post and less chrome) that was driven by various perpetrators.

To learn more about the McGarrettmobile, look on Mike's website, where you will find an article by Michael Timothy, who located the car, restored it, and pops in here from time to time. You will also find e-mail correspondence between Mike and Mr. Timothy, further explaining the restoration project. Fascinating! Purely fascinating!

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My Heart is in, HI - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 22:04:03 (PST)
NO WAY!...apparently CBS no longer trusts Ed Bernero to redo this series...they want a "BSG"-ish remake, but ALEX O'LOUGHLIN as McGarrett???...forget it!

Daniel Dae Kim should be Chin Ho Kelly JUNIOR!...following in Dad's footsteps...

What's next:trying to re-use the old Mercury Monterey sedans w/ the special plates?...if I was Gov. Linda Lingle(R-Hawaii), I'd put the stop to this travesty NOW!...insulting ALL H5-0 fans worldwide by re-imagining the show is just beyond stupid!\

Try again, CBS, and use Ed Bernero's talent instead!

Monty
Duarte, CA USA - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 19:26:14 (PST)
I think that Alex O'Laughlin would do an amazing job on Hawaii 5-0. I have watched everything he has done and he is a wonderful actor. I loved him as much in Three Rivers as i did in Moonlight. I don't think they gave three rivers much of a chance because they put it on during football season after the game on a Sunday night...if it would have been on on a different night or earlier I think it would have done much better.
I hope he gets a chance to prove himself again in Hawaii 5-0. I know that I would be glued to the tv set!!

Dawn Zappia
Ridgway, Pa USA - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 17:36:19 (PST)
i think it is a great idea! He is hot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cindy
St. Paul, MN usa - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 16:36:22 (PST)
I'm hoping that these are just 2 of many auditions being considered. I'm trying hard to keep an open mind about all of this and I really do want the show to succeed. However, the audition tape for Ben Ferrar shows a complete departure from Danny Williams. The look, the accent, the dialogue...well, I couldn't watch beyond the first of the 5 audition tapes Ben made. He's so NOT Danno. I see someone like a Ricky Shroeder-type playing Danno.

Not completely impressed with Olivia's audition tape either. Actually who I really liked was the guy reading with her. He sounded like a real character in the show. I am still not understanding why Kono is a female. Why not just make another character who happens to be a female. Why are they slapping Kono's name on this character? The original Kono was quite a character. It's too bad they can't cast someone like him in that role. A female will NEVER pull off Kono's character no matter how much you use your imagination.

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 16:26:51 (PST)
A FEMALE KONO?!!

Gotta make sure I have a pack of Rolaids handy . . .

ajohar
Irondequoit, NY US - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 14:50:21 (PST)
Aloha Mike,
Finding your great Hawaii Five-0 website has truly made my millenium! I've always loved this show, and it was so worthy of its long run on television.
As a film collector, exhibitor & archivist myself, I really appreciate it when I see such a detailed, extensive web site for a classic TV series. Thanks!!
-Hunter
Tucson, AZ & Mexico

Hunter Mann
Tucson, AZ USA - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 14:48:05 (PST)
It appears that the roles of Danno and (the female) Kono are still being cast for the upcoming pilot. YouTube features videos of actor Ben Farrar trying out for the role of Danno (4 different audition videos of him) and actress Olivia Oguma for the role of Kono. These appear to be legit auditions from what I can tell. Here are the links:

Danno: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o78sPqCg4w0&feature=related

Kono: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGt1oc-pzJU&feature=related

While neither audition impresses me, these videos give a little insight into details from the pilot script.


Jeff Herman
Denver, CO USA - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 13:14:18 (PST)
Let me get this straight, Big H. You complained about shows from the 80s for being bad/cheesy (Knight Rider, T.J. Hooker) but you enjoyed THUNDERBIRDS??! Lol... WOW!! Knight Rider looks like Casablanca in comparison... lol!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 12:30:58 (PST)
"Rick, thanks for posting that THUNDERBIRDS clip. LOLOLOL! I almost fell off my chair when I saw that crap!! Who exactly was that show aimed at??!! " I would say mostly boys under the age of 10, and I remember loving it as a kid!! My brother, who is 7 years my younger, didn't remember it when the topic came up a couple of months ago during Christmas, so we went out to Big!Lots and picked up a full dvd of the T-birds (only a lousy $3), brought it back to his place and soaked the whole disc up and LOVED IT!! ("LOVED IT" means we ROTFLOAO) Some things are so cheesy in life that you just have to admire it...
Big H
Rainy Raleigh, NC USA1 - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 09:39:29 (PST)
"Remaking this series using 21st century morality and political correctness will most certainly kill it."

What does that even mean? Not sure I feel the same charm for the original it that area. Almost all positions of power were caucasians. Most of the roles blacks had were pimps, whores and criminals. They often had caucasian actors dress up as asians using some of the worst make up jobs to ever appear on TV. I tend to think we've gone forward since then.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 08:12:22 (PST)
i wish Alex well, but looks like CBS has "booked" him into yet another fine mess.

Some opinions (NOT MINE before you all scream, rant and rave about it) This is my last post. I will be using the Five-O yahoo groups from now.

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3. richardperez@....net comments:
February 11, 2010
This is obviously going to be a 'reimagined' version of the series, rather than a sequel. However, unlike BSG, which originally ran for a single season, H5-O ran for twelve. Too much material to just dismiss. As a longtime fan, I am skeptical. Remaking this series using 21st century morality and political correctness will most certainly kill it. But, then again, most remakes fail. I'll be watching and commenting......

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5. Wo Fat comments:
February 11, 2010
This reboot reminds me of the "New Bionic Woman"..."The New Dragnet"...etc.

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8. Chris comments:
February 11, 2010
Don't think Alex O is the right choice for this show but I will give it a chance. The cast better have good chemistry or it will be another Three Rivers. All in all I don't think this show will make it.

16. TiminPhx comments:
February 11, 2010
I just don't like the way this guy acts. It's got that cheesy, overwrought style to it. He seems to have gone to the David Caruso school of acting. And not the Caruso who was in NYPD, but the cheesy, sunglass hero of the cartoon, CSI Miami. They would have been better off picking an older actor to head the cast. A playing it straight laced Tom Selleck might have been interesting. His Island experience seemed to work well.

#
25. Joyce comments:
February 10, 2010
Why Alex O? The man is an awful and terrible wannbe actor. So many great actors out there and available. Why a boring and no good actor? I loved Five-O, but Alex is horrible as an actor. Sure, he has a nice body, but that is not going to make the show be a hit. It needs good actors and Alex is not a good actor at all!!!!

KD MCG
Hawaii, Five o it's on.. - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 07:35:47 (PST)
I wonder... did the people who are getting all bent out of shape at the blasphemy of a new Five-O feel the same way when season 12 came out? Wasn't that disrespectful to the shows creator?

As bad as the remake might be I think there is a good chance it won't be as painful to watch as some of those Season 12 episodes were.

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 07:05:21 (PST)
Some person comments at the EW site re O'Loughlin's being hired:

I think this is a needless remake. And to cast a guy who’s never had a show make it past one season? That doesn’t seem like a good sign.

Duh! Obviously never heard of "Stoney Burke"!!

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Olympicworld - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 06:58:45 (PST)
I've seen all of Season 7 and it was better than I expected. I thought the show peaked during seasons 3, 4 and 5 but 7 had some moments and several shows I didn't remember seeing.

But, they still had footage of the 2 door car! Come on, this HAD to be an inside joke? You can't tell me after 7 years one of the most succesful shows on TV didn't catch this? Or couldn't afford to reshoot a car driving down the road?

And the way Ben disapeared half way through the season and then reapeared for the season finale, just plain weird...

Hans
Boston, MA USA - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 06:56:45 (PST)
I hate to say I'm not too excited about the new series. First, they have a long way to go to live up to the original. I wish they would have created new characters instead of trying to remake the original. Seeing anyone other than Jack Lord as McGarrett will be strange. I was hoping for Gary Cole (American Gothic) as the lead, because he is one of the gew actors I can think of with Jack Lord's intense presence. I'll be more than happy to give the new series a fair chance, and hope they don't turn it into another Law and Order clone. Hawaii Five-0 had a distinct style and will be difficult to capture with today's version of the crime drama. And yes, James MacArthur should play the Governor!
Madison
Dullsville, VA USA - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 05:12:26 (PST)
Just for the record now (after my last comment), I'm OK with Kim portraying Chin... as I'm OK with O'Loughlin playing McGarrett, which is now officially the case. I have Google Alerts on "Hawaii Five-O" (as I guess many of you have, too) and a whole bunch of items arrived overnight stating that a deal was reached yesterday.

(Can't wait to hear "Book 'em, Danno" in an Aussie accent.)

ajohar
Irondequoit, NY US - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 04:47:21 (PST)
Please forgive me if I have offended anyone with my use of the term "Chinaman." I only meant a man from China. Could you tell me, please, the preferred term.

Still, this was a common complaint amongst Hawaiians during 1.0. It has a certain validity when people of the needed background are willing and able to play the role in question.

True, people have acted in the roles of backgrounds not their own. In fact, it was the norm in centuries past, when a man would play the part of a woman, because no actresses were available... and when a man would sing the soprano and alto parts in a choir, because no women were in the choir.

In this case, however, a great many people in Hawai`i would love to have a role in the production, including some, I would imagine, whose backgrounds are Chinese.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, February 11, 2010 at 00:14:40 (PST)
Or like an Australian actor playing an American cop. Yeah... that stuff should never happen.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 20:33:44 (PST)
Oh come on, give me a break.

Are you serious about getting excited about a Korean playing a "Chinaman" (which is a derogatory expression, by the way ... look it up at Wikipedia).

It's called ACTING.

Does anyone get in a tizzy when Anthony Quinn plays an Arab in Lawrence of Arabia? Peter Sellers plays an East Indian in The Party? When several of the actresses in Memoirs of a Geisha are not Japanese?

Don't try talking to James MacArthur about this kind of political correctness. When meeting him for lunch many years ago, I brought up the issue of white actors playing Asian characters on Five-O. He used a very, very bad word!

Mr. Mike
The torch is coming to my neighborhood tomorrow, BC Canada - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 20:21:31 (PST)
Well, let's make a stink about it, then, just in case someone reads what we write.

CBS, we need a Chinaman to portray a Chinaman. We also expect Hawaiians to portray Hawaiians, mainlanders to portray mainlanders, etc., so forth, and so on. Come on, folks. Make this a good show or don't make it at all.

Oh, and while we're at it, don't make every criminal a Hawaiian. There are mainland criminals and every other kind of criminals, so spread the crimes around, okay?

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 18:36:20 (PST)
I read on one of the Honolulu news sites that some of the local folk in Hawaii are already shaking their heads at the idea of a Korean actor (Dan Kim) playing Chinese Chin Ho Kelly... but we mailanders are also being written off by one columnist as essentially too stupid to be able to tell the difference anyway.

Coconuts to you there, pineapple face!

ajohar
Irondequoit, NY USA - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 18:18:22 (PST)
OMG!! Rick, thanks for posting that THUNDERBIRDS clip. LOLOLOL! I almost fell off my chair when I saw that crap!! Who exactly was that show aimed at??!! I swear I've never seen anything so craptacular in my life!! My eyes are still sore! I hope whoever was behind that show was severely punished... LOL..
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 14:30:07 (PST)
It is what it is, but there was no need to be rude. i apologize, but still..
KD MCG
I, am out of here - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 12:44:23 (PST)
The IMDB poll was about TV shows set on islands. For reasons known only to yourself you decided that Hawaii (and the UK) is in some way involved.
Forgive me if I can't follow.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 12:40:27 (PST)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RzCB3VRruE

Thunderbirds is a British mid-1960s television show devised by Gerry and Sylvia Anderson and made by AP Films using a form of marionette puppetry dubbed "Supermarionation". The series followed the adventures of International Rescue, an organisation created to help those in grave danger using technically advanced equipment and machinery. The series focused on the head of the organisation, ex-astronaut Jeff Tracy, and his five sons who piloted the "Thunderbird" machines. Perenially popular, the series is still shown today and has inspired a number of subsequent television programmes and films.

Neither do you!!! This show in the clip was NEVER shot in Hawaii. As for UK, i pointed it out because of the link not anything else. And please don't use this forum to belittle somebody.

The youtube clip is the puppet show and it was not filmed in Hawaii! It was filmed on Stirling Road and as for your comments about what i don't know-very unnecessary.

The film was shot in Hawaii

KD MCg
Hawaii, Five im out! - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 12:08:02 (PST)
"Hey Big H, don't tell me you actually tried this. You must have quite a bit of time on your hands... LOL.." Come on, Ringfire.....30 secs, max....
Big H again
Ral, NC USA - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 10:50:34 (PST)
Um...KD, IMDB is referring to TV. The YouTube clip is TV. So I don't know what your talking about but it wouldn't be the first time that has happened.
And congratulations being from the UK.

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 10:26:45 (PST)
I actually think that Rick(y) Schroeder would be a good choice for Danno. He is a little older (late 30's) but has always looked younger than his real age. And I believe that he is only about 5 9" so he would be shorter than anyone else that they would probably cast as McGarrett to include Alex O'Loughlin.

He is due to return back to California after a year in Spain. But perhaps he could just relocate to Hawaii instead. Any thoughts on this choice??

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 10:22:18 (PST)
I am originally from the UK. Thudnerbirds the movis is what is being referenced here not the show.
KD
Tampa, Fl USA???!! - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 10:11:39 (PST)
Ringfire:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RzCB3VRruE

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 10:07:20 (PST)
"Those are bad numbers, Ringfire, but look at the first choice in the list. Clearly, the poll was designed for die-hard "Lost" fans." -- yes, it does look like it was geared towards Lost fans. Well, I can forgive Lost being #1 as it's a current ratings hit and on everyone's mind (obviously not on mine) but THUNDERBIRDS??! I don't even know what that is. BAYWATCH?? Really??!! And not even the original either. Most likely they're referring to the BAYWATCH HAWAII version. Since they're talking about shows set on an island. FANTASY ISLAND??! Sheesh...
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 10:04:29 (PST)
Those are bad numbers, Ringfire, but look at the first choice in the list. Clearly, the poll was designed for die-hard "Lost" fans. Come up with an unbiased poll and, then, I'll take the results seriously. In the meantime, let's buy those 1.0 DVDs.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
MY HEART IS IN, HI - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 09:57:57 (PST)
Due to the overwhelming response of the season eight box cover, CBS decided to release season nine...
http://a7.idata.over-blog.com/600x377/3/01/25/75/WESTERN-17/LORD-WARD-anniv.jpg

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 09:55:56 (PST)
Excellent links, Mike. It's always fun to watch McGarrett and Wo Fat going at each other. It was rewarding to watch it here, since, as an independent agent, Wo Fat would not have Peking to bail him out. No, the wily Chinaman probably spent the rest of his life in Leavenworth. Yippee!!!

KD, please don't get so worked up over 2.1. We don't know what is going on. Let's hope for the best - BUT keep buying the remastered DVDs until we have all of 1.0 to enjoy for as long as we live. For us, that will always be THE Five-0, not any remake (1997, 2.0, 2.1, or any other).

Someone who posted recently said he just hopes the new team will give due respect to Jack Lord and the 1.0 team. That sums it up for me, as well.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
MY HEART IS IN, HI - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 09:43:26 (PST)
I would be interested (if anybody has a contact) to see what Mrs. Freeman's thought are on the Five-O reboot? Most sad that she doesn't have the TV rights only the movie rights.


KDMCG
Tampa, FL U_S_A - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 09:36:08 (PST)
Hey guys! Take a look at this link: http://www.imdb.com/poll/results. It's a poll on IMDB asking what the best series filmed in Hawaii is. Take a look at how low Five-0 is! I swear I wanted to kick something when I saw that nonsense. Below BAYWATCH?!! Below THUNDERBIRDS??!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 09:23:23 (PST)
"Do this....take a piece of paper, cut out a sort-of oval hole just big enough to get the face in, which will block out the hair, ears & chin. Now, does that look like JL to you??" - Hey Big H, don't tell me you actually tried this. You must have quite a bit of time on your hands... LOL..
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 09:19:01 (PST)
"There is something weird about this shot of Jack Lord on the cover of the season 8 box set, due next month. I'm not talking about the uncharacteristic smile. It looks like Lord's head as been vertically compressed a bit ... and maybe even horizontally expanded. What season or show is this from? It is very strange ... not even like Jack Lord! Go to amazon.com (http://tinyurl.com/ykvzpll) and look at the blown-up version of the cover. This looks more like Monte Markham!" I think Mr. Mike is right.....it is NOT Lord's smile. Do this....take a piece of paper, cut out a sort-of oval hole just big enough to get the face in, which will block out the hair, ears & chin. Now, does that look like JL to you?? I believe CBS has snookered us again.
Big H
Windy Raleigh, NC USA - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 09:16:51 (PST)
Excellent point, but like Jack Lord Dwayne is "larger than life" and that is what is needed-the chutzpah, charisma carried Five-O. i still do not see Alexo as that.
MCG
You, are right Mike! - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 09:13:46 (PST)
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson is also 6'4". Alex O'Loughlin is allegedly 6' and 3/4", by the way. There is an interesting article here -- http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/hawaii-five-o-casting/ which leads to another here: http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/tag/hawaii-five-o/
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 08:30:40 (PST)
Mike-indeed that is the only downfall that I have with David Morse. In any case, if it were a continuation we could have had Dwayne Johnson as the Kamaaina lead and that would have resolved that issue.

This has disaster written all over it..

KD MCG
Tampa, FL usa - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 08:16:53 (PST)
The word "accounts" there refers to someone logging in from multiple accounts at the same Internet service provider.
Mr. Mike
Where is the Torch?, BC Canada - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 08:08:54 (PST)
January 14, 2010 at 10:19:23 (PST): "The only banishment at the moment has to do with someone who was logging in from the same IP address with multiple accounts."
A Visitor
- Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 07:24:37 (PST)
To "A Visitor": There are no "accounts" here ... if you want to post something, just click on the link at the top of the main Guestbook page.

As far as David Morse is concerned, he does have a certain "teddy bear" quality ... but he is 6'4"! Think of Doug Mossman (who is also around this height) being the "Danno" character beside Jack Lord's 6' tall McGarrett...

Mr. Mike
Olympics are almost starting - UGH!, BC Canada - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 at 04:49:44 (PST)
i don't think the producers "get it" that's my concern and has been all along. Right now, we have a Chin Ho that doesn't sit well with my idea. Shanks-ok maybe as a disheveled Danny Williams. My choice has always been David Morse.

Excerpt from Shanks website

"I'm sure there's some updates, because I don't think we could pull off that kind of brow furrowing with a straight face in this day and age. I'll tell you one thing, to go to Hawaii to shoot a series would be a dream come true, that's for certain. Not a bad gig there. ... I don't feel too bad for the people on Lost. Oh, you're on Lost. Poor guys. Yeah. Boo-hoo. Go back to your cabana and have another mojito [laughs]."

"Brow furrowing with a straight face!"pah..it still works on criminal minds for Mr. Hotch who could have easily carried a new Five-O!

Should have just had Sammo Hung as Chin Ho,but i have a feeling as the producers stated this is for the "action procedural" hence he will probably also be a martial artist and come on they just cast him because he is Asian because the plotline calls for a veteran and this guy looks young...and well, time is running out for the March pilot shooting...not much imagination there!

It is not Hawaii Five-O-it is just using the name for whatever reason as this will have no connection except in name and characters (maybe the music albeit in a rock format!),BUT as Pam pointed out it is possible that those who see this knock-off will refer back to the classic. i give this a season maybe 2 at most. I still don't understand why a continuation wasn't optioned.This is a huge risk...well there is a "BS" in CBS...the bright side is it is good or Hawaii IF and IF this works out and doesn't resign itself to remake garbage heaven..

KD MCG
Tampa,FL, kinda like Hawaii! - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 21:16:04 (PST)
How do I get an actual user account for this site? I saw one reference made to an "account" earlier, but I can't seem to find any details about signing up. Thank you.
A Visitor
- Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 21:02:46 (PST)
I hope to God they do this right. Could be a moneymaker with the same allure of the Bond movies if the producers "get it". Great theme song--could hit the airwaves again. Hawaii would be great spot for 3D! Please, please put the respect into this film that Jack Lord deserves.
dave
maple grove, mn usa - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 19:42:09 (PST)
I am old enough to have watched the original, but I must say, if they cast Alex O. and Michael S. in the lead roles on this show, I will so be there every week watching it! They are two of my favorite actors!
Pat
Silver Spring, MD USA - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 19:33:19 (PST)
Having held top billing, would he be happy playing second banana to anyone - even Jack Lord???

Besides, isn't he getting up in years to be playing Danno?

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 15:29:19 (PST)
Michael Shanks possibly the next Danno?

http://bit.ly/9fYFv4

http://bit.ly/69HOgt

KD MCG
i, got the scoops! - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 14:39:33 (PST)
Nobody judges Alex O'Loughlin by his previous shows. I only think he is no McGarrett because Jack Lord is McGarrett and vice versa. No doubt Alex O'L could play a lead role in a new Hawai'i Five-O with new characters. But there's no other McGarrett than Jack Lord, never ever, IMHO. But I only repeat what's said here a dozen times.
Nadja
Berlin, - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 14:07:42 (PST)
Excuse me, Pam, what do you mean by "this generation"
(Just curious) ??

Steve's Girl
Germany - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 13:18:32 (PST)
I agree, Jack Lord is a cultural icon. I wish more people from this generation would know about the original "Hawaii Five-0" and know him as well as I did since I watched them on TV when I was 12.

If Alex succeeds in drawing an audience, people will want to know about the original. I've already had people from Alex' several websites connect to this site, wanting to know about Jack, some of whom either do know him, or only know the theme music. I'd love to have young people get a chance to watch the originals on DVD and have the fun we've all had of seeing Jack Lord in action.

I do think Alex has a good chance of succeeding in this role. Yes, it will be different. But it'll also be a catalyst for people to watch Jack who've never seen him before. I think that would be, um, groovy...*grin*


Pam (Gothmyst)
Los Angelese, CA USA - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 11:59:47 (PST)
I should have added this before: When we were flying back from Honolulu in September, one of the male flight attendants looked just like Chin Ho. I just wanted to run up and hug him. Really! But I didn't, not with air marshals aboard. LOL
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 11:46:32 (PST)
Does anyone know whether the Rev. Dr. Daniel Chun of First Presbyterian Honolulu is related to Chin Ho (Kam Fong Chun)?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 11:43:09 (PST)
To Pam. Thanks for the message. Alex is a great actor with screen presence, but the McGarrett character is a cultural icon and let's face it there is a larger existing fanbase already and we grew up with the original.

No doubt they will do a "James Bond" on Five-O updating the settings and pacing etc. But, Alex will likely not succeed in this show. He will not be a cultural icon like Jack Lord and even though he may appeal to a new generation, the show will only succeed if they can capture lightning in a bottle. I also heard he has a few offers on the table including from ABC and who could blame him for reneging considering the way CBS has treated his shows.

Again-Alex is a good actor.

KD MCg
Hawaii, Five ? - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 11:41:26 (PST)
Again. you are welcome! I don't know about this Daniel guy; perhaps Dennis Chun would have been a better idea! (Kam Fong's son)
KD MCG
at, least it's shot in HI - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 10:57:23 (PST)
Today's Honolulu Star bulletin announced that Daniel Dae Kim from "Lost" will play the role of chin Ho kelly. Locations are being scouted now with filming expected to begin in March.
Theresa
Buffalo, NY USA - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 10:47:49 (PST)
Thank you, Hawai`i-I'm-not-sure-abt-2.0, for your support. It is very rewarding to be able to play a role in the community effort to keep 1.0 alive. P.S. I'm not sure about 2.0, either, but will hope for the best.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 09:56:03 (PST)
Pam-as you're admin for Alex's sites, maybe you have a way of pointing him to this site..lol
KD

Actually, I have pointed a lot of the Alex O'Loughlin site members to this site. I think it's incredible, the amount of detail, and if Alex does end up as it does appear he will playing McGarrett, I want them to know Jack Lord the way I did. I stand on both sides of the fence: a fan of both men, and I will tell you this: if ANYONE is going to play Steve McGarrett, which I do not want to have happen (I think it should have been his son or another relative), you will do well with Alex. He takes his roles very seriously, whether an OCD victim on Criminal Minds or a vampire on Moonlight, or a transplant surgeon on Three Rivers.

Some trivia: Remember Jack Lord played in a show that was loved by fans but got cut off after a short time for lack of ratings? But he got Hawaii Five-O and it took off for 12 seasons, yet his fans from that original show still remembered him? What if Jack had been judged on that show and not what he did with Hawaii Five-0? Alex is being judged on Moonlight, which frankly in itself was a sweet romantic show that just happened to be about a vampire. CBS yanked it despite its fan following. Give Alex a chance as Jack was given when the network yanked his show.

I loved Jack Lord; I think he was incredible. The best. But since CBS has decided it's going to be Steve, I want someone in that part I know is going to honor the character. Alex will. He'll not try to imitate him. He'll give the character the dignity, romance, fun and sharp wit, but he won't try to be Jack Lord. CBS should never have asked ANY actor to be Jack Lord. There isn't anyone out there who can be. But if we have to allow CBS to bring him back, I'll bet on Alex any day.


Pam (Gothmyst)
Los Angeles, CA USA - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 09:53:11 (PST)
At Five-O-you are welcome. You are part of our wonderful fraternity and your efforts on your website are tremendous.

i salute you and Mr. Mike for keeping us all motivated through such sites and for allowing the memories of 1.0 to be as fresh as ever...

Hawaii
Five, i'm not sure abt 2.0 - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 08:45:47 (PST)
One second-this should summon him back...kimo,kimo,kimo Yes, Chin-Ho seems a little young. You cannoty just transplant somebody from Lost just because...ha
KD MCg
ok, here we go - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 08:33:31 (PST)
Thank you, KD, for your very kind words of encouragement.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 09, 2010 at 01:43:14 (PST)
Hi, Kimo - am greeting the developments related to H-50 2.0 with a certain degree of guarded curiosity; as a diehard LOST fan the news of Daniel Dae Kim being cast as Chin Ho leaves me a bit ambivalent - Kam had a certain avuncular - and undeniably Hawai'ian - vibe that I really appreciated, and much as I've loved his work as Jin, Daniel really doesn't; still a bit too young, for one thing.....Alex O'Loughlin strikes me as an odd choice (what IS it with the swell of Australian actors lately? That said, Karl Urban absolutely NAILED what a younger Leonard McCoy would've been like in Star Trek.....) It's a daunting, if not downright impossible, task: who acting today compares to Jack Lord in demeanor and appearance? I can't think of a single one.....

A question: when Ed was sounding out the fans for input, one recommendation I made was to use Gary Hoey's version of the theme song as it rocks unbelievably hard and incorporates the Season Eight-Twelve rave-up outro intro, might resonate a lot more with younger generations. Do you have any idea what the producer's plans are for this version's theme? Thanks

James

James Cayon
Easthampton, MA United States - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 20:11:21 (PST)
Pam, I believe I read recently that Wo Fat won't be back. Chances are, he's still cooling his heels in Leavenworth. LOL. They will have a new international villain, but I don't know how much information has come down about him, yet.

Mike, that picture is awful! It looks like somebody drew a caricature of Jack and computer enhanced it - someone with even worse computer skills than my own, I might add.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 12:24:52 (PST)
I am an absolute fan of the series due to the gorgeous (and still cuddly)James MacArthur, although I wasn't to keen on him being replaced by Williams Smith. I watched it from the very first episode and so far have up to Series 6
of the boxed sets, only 6 more to go.

In the new series I hope that they will give James MacArthur a cameo role at least, or how about the the Governor's job, he's done it before.

Please note, who-ever they cast in the roles of Steve McGarrett and Danny Williams have a lot of work in front of them to be as good as their predessors.

I have read today that Daniel Dae Kim will be playing Chin Ho Kelly, I reckon that's a good choice, please note that to me, whoever is chosen to play 'Danno' will never be a patch on James MacArthur.

I can't wait to see who they cast as Wo Fat!

Pam
Great Yarmouth, Norfolk England - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 11:39:32 (PST)
There is something weird about this shot of Jack Lord on the cover of the season 8 box set, due next month. I'm not talking about the uncharacteristic smile. It looks like Lord's head as been vertically compressed a bit ... and maybe even horizontally expanded. What season or show is this from? It is very strange ... not even like Jack Lord! Go to amazon.com (http://tinyurl.com/ykvzpll) and look at the blown-up version of the cover. This looks more like Monte Markham!
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 11:04:23 (PST)
Mercedes is definitely the car of villains. A classic example is the film Goldfinger, which I saw four times in theatre when it first came out. There is a scene where these bad guys are chasing James Bond in a black Mercedes, and it goes out of control and plunges over a cliff, bursting into flames.

Here are some more Five-O Mercedes:

#84. Nine, Ten -- You're Dead -- When Edmonds (Albert Paulson, a slimy mob boss) and the young blonde-haired hitman are tracking down Stone, they are driving a Mercedes, which seems unusual for what is probably a rental car.

#146. A Hawaiian Nightmare -- Bernard Brown (James Olson), the guy threatening to cause lava to flow over Hilo, lives in a fancy house and owns a Mercedes convertible

#149. Bomb, Bomb, Who's Got the Bomb? -- Senator Henderson drives a black Mercedes convertible, license number 2F-2754.

#155. Welcome to Our Branch Office -- Doug Mossman's car, a yellow Mercedes convertible (license number 2F-4323) looks like the one driven by William Windom in #149 (but the color is different).

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 10:56:47 (PST)
i say this sincerely, you are a good writer as evident from your website and i can only imagine your scripts would be as compelling. Don't lose hope, always do your best to network and hob nob with the right crowd. We do need a channel similar to Sundance that recognizzes new creative sparks.

I still feel that Chin Ho needs to be a little more heavy-maybe he lets himself go over the course of the series..haha

KD MCg
Hawaii, Five 0ooh - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 10:27:54 (PST)
Re: "Seems Hollywood is creatively bankrupt."

And, yet, there are many unknown writers out there (myself included), who would love to have a chance to be noticed. But we are small fish in a frightfully big pond. Only a few even get to be considered by the Big Boys, be they the studios or the major publishers. The rest of us self-publish, and there's no like equivalent for scriptwriters.

The cable networks have founded their own niche of writers, younger, fresher writers, who still have new ideas. And, yet, once again, there are many unknown writers...

Re: Alex O'Loughlin... Negotiations are always dicey. Just look how quickly a deal can fall apart when we are buying or selling a car or a house.

Re: The alleged new Chin Ho. I've never seen him act, but he could carry it off as far as appearance goes. I wonder if this Chin Ho will be the easy-going family man that OUR Chin Ho was???

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 10:13:13 (PST)
The fact that things are being remade suhc as Rockford Files, Teen Wolf, Nikita etc. is a damning indictment in my opinion that writers cannot come up with original concepts anymore. They are remaking Mr. and Mrs. Smith, Spider Man etc. Seems Hollywood is creatively bankrupt.

i think the cable channels fare better in the originality stakes. Shows suich as burn Notice that are filmed locally in Florida seem to be doing reallly well. i am all for cable productions.

My comment re: Dae Kim. He is 42 so should be okay for their vision.

KD MCg
Tampa, Fl U S A ! - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 09:19:37 (PST)
Reverse casting. He does look tenacious and steeely eyed Mike...you are absolutely right good one!!
KD MCG
Hawaii, ooo ooooo - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 09:08:27 (PST)
Is Daniel in his fifties? I am quite sure not.


[CHIN HO KELLY] A tough, capable Asian man in his 50s, he's a 20 year veteran of the Honolulu police force who was a close friend of McGarrett's cop dad. However, Chin was recently drummed out of the department for accepting payoffs, even though he was completely innocent of all charges. Now a security officer in Pearl Harbor, he's grateful to McGarrett for offering him the chance to clear his name and get back into active duty. A savvy guy with a lot of connections on the island, Chin also becomes a crucial member of McGarrett's federal task force sptv050769...SERIES REGULAR (14)

KD MCg
thats, very strange - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 09:01:24 (PST)
Yes, indeed. I just learned Alex is toying with an ABC series and one another as well. He is actually a quite fascinating guy. The way CBS had toyed with him, he is probably very reticent right now.

I belive on his myspace page he says he doesn't want to do something for the sake of doing it, but because it is meaningful. i am surprised the cast listing says that he has confirmed when he has not.

KD MCg
Hawaii, Five O - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 08:43:18 (PST)
Hmmm, I just had a "brainstorm": in a reversal of typical casting seen in the original Five-O, maybe Daniel Dae Kim should play (the white) McGarrett! (ha ha)
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 08:12:38 (PST)
According to this article, Alex O'Loughlin is not definite for Steve McGarrett:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i4f6b8b7378b9d594108d6f2921b35012

'Lost' actor joins 'Hawaii Five-O'
Daniel Dae Kim tapped for a lead role in CBS' remake

By Nellie Andreeva

"Lost's" Daniel Dae Kim is staying in Hawaii with a lead role on CBS' "Hawaii Five-0" remake.

In CBS' updated take on the classic cop series, from CBS Studios, Kim will play Detective Chin Ho Kelly, a role played in the original series by Kam Fong.

The part of Detective Steve McGarrett has not yet been cast, though "Moonlight" star Alex O'Loughlin continues to be in talks for it.

The new "Hawaii Five-0" hails from hot feature writers and "Fringe" co-creators Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci and "CSI: NY" executive producer/co-showrunner Peter Lenkov.

Kim, who played Jin Kwon on "Lost" for its six-season run, is the first actor from the show's core cast to book a new series project this pilot season as the ABC mystery drama heads to its May finale.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 06:39:22 (PST)
Mr. Mike, I agree with your assessment of the time problem with today's TV shows. Advertising is king on the airwaves. I have never watched an episode of Criminal Minds, but I can imagine what it is like. I have been watching old 80's TV shows on Hulu recently and even back then they still had 48-50 minutes to do an episode.

So Daniel Dae Kim has been cast as Chin Ho? At least he won't have to move from Hawaii. I think that is actually an interesting choice. Back in the 90's when discussions over the H5-O newsboard used to include "who would you cast as ...", I thought about what would happen if Chin Ho were more of a younger guy. The actor I thought of at that time was Jason Scott Lee, partly because he was from Hawaii.

Collin Freeman
Shawnee, KS USA - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 06:06:57 (PST)
TV shows try to cram more plot into less time, and the result is stories that move at the pace of a bullet train, and not very thoughtfully, at least for the most part. I read that free TV will be a thing of a past in the near future, that everyone will have to have cable or satellite TV to even watch the tube, how this will affect advertising and hence the length of programs, I don't know, but it would be nice if it lengthened the running times. HBO's The Sopranos was interesting, there was no set time for each episode, they ran anywhere from forty-five minutes to over an hour. Is that the future for TV in general? We'll see.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 05:22:41 (PST)
So, there's the new Chin Ho: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=63106
Nadja
Berlin, - Monday, February 08, 2010 at 04:39:53 (PST)
Speaking of cars...

Not only do I cringe because of the bad translation each time I watch "Nine Dragons", I also chuckle each time when
Steve is met by the phony Hong Kong police officers at the
airport.
That's so because YEARS ago I read somewhere, that the bad
guy in US movies and TV shows can be easily spotted because
he drives a Mercedes.So, are there bad guys in Five-0 that
drive a Mercedes? Yes, there are. So far I've come up
with the following episodes:

"Nine Dragons" "A Gun for McGarrett" "Vashon Part 1"
"The Twofaced Corpse" "Highest Castle Deepest Grave"
"Twenty Four Karat Kill".

Steve's Girl
Germany - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 22:55:30 (PST)
When I've said that they don't build cars like McG's Mercury today, it wasn't because I would like to drive one,
I'm very happy with my small Toyota.
But on the streets (and in contemporary movies or TV shows)
you can't nearly tell one make of car from the other.McG's
car is just a sight for sore eyes and combined with the deep rumbling sound of its engine...well.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 22:40:07 (PST)
Actually, SG, you still can get a big, black Mercury. The Marquis is still manufactured under the "Grand Marquis" name. Although it is not as large McGarrett's '74 model, it is pretty much the largest car on the road today, as far as sedans go. I have a Grand Marquis (not black) but absolutely hate it! Although it is comfortable on long trips, it is a lumbering log wagon to drive. On the highway, it gets about 27 mpg, but in town, it guzzles the petrol. I imagine that, as soon as this move is behind us, my husband will trade it in on something he likes. I'm happy with my '96 Volvo 850.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 16:17:56 (PST)
"You wouldn't see a TV show do that today."

Watched "Gran Torin" with Clint Eastwood last night- wow, what a car. And immetiately afterwards a Five-0 episode-
THE big black Mercury-again, wow, what a car!
You surely won't see cars like these in a TV show today;
they don't build cars like these anymore.
So-what else won't they do in TV shows today? A lot,I'm
afraid.

Steve's Girl
Germany - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 13:35:28 (PST)
I just watched "Right Grave, Wrong Body" and noticed how they took the time with the Identi-Kit scenes; possible product placement aside (as Mr. Mike noted in his review), they "took the time." Season 1's "And They Painted Daisies On His Coffin" is another example of taking the time - in this case, Steve and HPD going through the apartment of the kid Danny shot. You wouldn't see a TV show do that today.

And Mr. Mike - we're just wrapping up the Super Bowl, so it's just a two-week countdown for your Olympics experience to be over. :)

Sylvia
Pembroke Pines (close to Super Bowl Town), FL USA - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 10:20:41 (PST)
Please forgive my ignorance, Mike, but I can't find Olympicouver on my map. Can you tell me where it is? Seriously, that's good! Have fun hiding out from the tourists.

Re: the time limitations, I agree. It takes time to build a plot and then to resolve it. Surely, the studios, producers, and others have told the FCC as much. Why won't anyone listen to reason? Surely, there has to be more to life, including television, than money.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 09:39:47 (PST)
The guys making this new show have a real serious problem to overcome -- the fact that they only have 42 minutes (including beginning and end titles) to play around with, unlike the old days, where Five-O was usually over 50 minutes, and sometimes even over 51.

If you ever saw any of the Five-O Family Channel episodes, you will know what I am talking about. Most of those shows were severely edited so in many cases, the plot didn't even make sense. (See this WWW page if you want more specific details: http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/famchan-analysis.htm)

I recently was watching the Alex O'Loughlin episode of Criminal Minds, where he plays this twitchy killer who has OCD. You think that there are a lot of "brainstorms" on Five-O; they are nothing compared to Criminal Minds (at least based on this show), which had a slam-bam-thank-you-ma'am kind of plot development.

Alas, this is all too typical of TV shows today...

Mr. Mike
Olympicouver, BC Canada - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 08:18:49 (PST)
I also think Hal Blaine played drums on the original, he played on Ventures records. But it is possible... the musicians changed over the years so the DJ was old enough to have played on the later seasons.

Carol Kaye was the bass player on the theme and soundtracks until 1974. Her bass playing during the shows was something to behold...


Hans
Boston, MA USA - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 07:43:22 (PST)
I seriously doubt this guy Dote was playing the drums for Morton Stevens at age 13. It was probably some Hollywood studio musician like Hal Blaine. The link on Dote's own WWW site to a YouTube video of him playing this theme does not work because the video has reportedly been removed by him, BTW.
Monsieur Mike
"The whole world is watching" Vancouver, BC Vancouver - Sunday, February 07, 2010 at 01:26:24 (PST)
Does anyone know who the studio musician is who played the drums on the title theme song? A local DJ by the name of John Dote writes long websites saying that he played the drums for this song. He is 55 years old now, but that would have made him 13 years old when the theme and show were released. Did a 13 year old boy really play the drums on this theme?
Stormy
Las Vegas, NV USA - Saturday, February 06, 2010 at 20:02:09 (PST)
Nice save Mike! ...Over a billion dollars in security costs. Do they have you locked in your homes?
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Saturday, February 06, 2010 at 08:19:34 (PST)
The reason the link to Amazon was screwy was because they had TWO links to two different pages. They finally disabled one of these (the one I was linking to). This is a common problem with Amazon, where you can search for something and find multiple pages for the same book, CD or DVD. For example, go to Amazon and search for the book Monsters of the Moors by Potter. You will find four different listings for this book, all with different prices, because each listing was created in a slightly different way. I'd sure hate to be an Amazon customer who ordered something and paid a very high price, and then returned to the site and found there was a cheaper priced item listed because of this screwy way of displaying things for sale.

On another note, the Guestbook page was down for a bit since I was making some changes and totally wiped out all the postings since February 01 at 17:37:20 (PST). Fortunately, my crappy cel phone (which I mostly hate) had a cached copy of this page up to the most recent posting and I was able to cut and paste the text from this page and send it to myself (this was a very hairy procedure), then reconstruct the postings for the last 5 days.

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, Olympics Town (UGH), BC Canada - Saturday, February 06, 2010 at 07:54:19 (PST)
I was watching the episode, "Tricks Are Not Treats" from Season Six last night and it got me wondering: How is Hotel Street these days? I remember when I was in Hawaii many years ago, I do remember hearing over there that they did "Clean it up", but I did not see it for myself...any comments?..thanks...:-)
Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 19:13:08 (PST)
UPDATE: you can order it at Amazon - Mike just needs to update his pre-order link to Amazon...:-)
Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 19:03:30 (PST)
It looks like you can't order Season Eight right now at Amazon.com - I hope there is not a problem with this release - however, when I checked my account over there, I'm still in the que to get it when it's released...:-)
Glenn
Orlando, FL USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 18:32:01 (PST)
I loved Magnum P.I., but I think it was apples and oranges compared to Hawaii Five-0. I don't think Magnum ever made use of the land and the people like H 5-0. Except when Magnum rhapsodized about Hawaiian sunrises, and the shots of the estate, it could have been filmed anywhere. It didn't make as much use of local actors and people like H 5-0.
Barbara
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 13:34:31 (PST)
"Plus I always found Magnum to be incredibly whiny - especially when he constantly squabbled with Higgins! " ....I would ROFLMAO when he (Magnum) got on Higgins last nerve. MAGNUM, WHAT IN GOD'S NAME ARE YOU DOING??!!
Big H
Rainy Raleigh, NC USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 13:19:11 (PST)
Yeah, Hall & Oates were great! "Kiss on My List" just played on the radio. And you gotta love Laura Branigan's "Self Control" and it was a Knight Rider episode that introduced me to that song! As for "Magnum"...meh... didn't really care for it. Had a cool theme song and a cool car but that's about it. Its pace was too lethargic, too laid-back for my tastes. I wanted some urgency, some excitement. Plus I always found Magnum to be incredibly whiny - especially when he constantly squabbled with Higgins! It's like.. oh grow up already, dude! That actually to me is a perfect example of unnecessary 80s cheese.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 11:34:25 (PST)
Wow, you guys are good, but actually the one that I saw (but didn't remember) was in Vashon: The Father! At the end, Hayward says, "McG, let's make a deal...give me a light sentence and I'll give you the name." But Mcg, instead of yelling, "NO DEALS!!", rebuffs Hayward saying...."I already know the name." So the "deal" McG finally offered was ....maximum security Federal prison under an unidentified name so Vashon couldn't find Hayward and have him whacked. Yeah, I don't consider letting Wo Fat go for the hostage pilot an official deal by McG...McKaye forced his hand on that one. To Ringfire....ok ...ALL of the 80s didn't suck. We had Magnum and Hall & Oates.....that was about it (IMO). LOL, I still listen to H&O sometimes....
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 11:05:09 (PST)
Re: "I guess that only applies to the Joseph Sirola version of Jonathan Kaye." - - - I agree. I despise Joseph Sirola's JK. Typical Washington bureaucrat. Aargh!!!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 08:55:37 (PST)
I guess that only applies to the Joseph Sirola version of Jonathan Kaye. Even in "Three Dead Cows" he was more concerned about retrieving the virus rather than destroying it. Bill Edwards and Tim O'Connor seemed to be more humane/friendly as Kaye.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Friday, February 05, 2010 at 07:27:04 (PST)
"...wasn't too happy about that one"? LOL As I recall, he was mad enough to dismember Jonathan Kaye limb by limb. At times, I wished he would have dismembered Jonathan Kaye limb by limb. Oh! What an ego! In "FOB Honolulu," for example. McGarrett got the plates back for him, and the man didn't even thank him. Just sat there with a self-satisfied smile on his face as though he had found the plates, himself!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 14:05:12 (PST)
Ha!... "You play chess? ..."A trade" ..."Professor Lochner live and unharmed for your free passage" ...The first meeting of McG and WF since 'Cocoon' and I believe the only semi civilized episode conclusion between the two. There was the time WF was traded for the U2 pilot but McG wasn't too happy about that one.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 12:43:22 (PST)
40 Feet High and It Kills, McGarrett makes a deal with the Fatster. Is that what you're referring to?
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 11:43:24 (PST)
Sorry, Big H. But that's what makes the 80s so AWESOME!! It was all so bad that is was actually good! TV, movies, music - everything! There's no recapturing that magic! And why the heck would you want KITT to have a wicked voice? That's what KARR was for. Voiced by Peter Cullen and Paul Frees. Frees especially was great - giving the HAL-1000 a run for its money! Great eerie voice! But William Daniels was just perfect as the voice of KITT - his prissy demeanor was spot-on! I'm just glad we had a decade like the 80s where all of TV wasn't angst-driven. But that the name of the game back then was FUN!! Just kick and back and relax... and turn off your brain... sometimes it's a welcome change.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 11:28:56 (PST)
"Knight Rider was vintage 80s TV show - 80s at its absolute best! Unless you're talking about the remake. Same with Charlie's Angels - classic 70s! Unless you're talking about the movie remake. As for T.J. Hooker - again another 80s classic from THE SHAT!" Ringfire, I don't want to hurt your feelings, but....everything from the 80s sucked ....TV and pop/rock music. We just didn't know it was that bad b/c that's all there was to look at/listen to. [And what is it with William Daniels as the "voice" of the Firebird?!?!? He sounds like a wimp....jeez, get somebody that at least sounds intimidating and wicked.] Glad I was in college during part of the 80s so I didn't miss much. (changing gears) Hey, a trivia question for youse guys...I was watching an old eppie last night and at the end McG actually MADE A DEAL with the crook/villain!!! (You know our McG is Mr. No Deals) I almost fell off the couch b/c I really didn't remember it happening at all, and I've seen this ep a lot. Do you guys remember the ep AND the deal that was made?? (I expect Rick to get this first b/c I theorize he has some wicked H50 1.0 homemade database on his box that he can access at will...he comes up with everything FAST...)
Big H
Raleigh, NC - Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 11:01:50 (PST)
"Why wouldn't Cook be identified by his own name in the end credits of the Five-O episode if it was?" - Correct, Mr. Mike. Furthermore why would a different actor be credited in Cook's place? lol...doesn't make sense. I understand that there are rare times when an actor (even a fairly prominent one) may choose to go uncredited on-screen for whatever reason. But they certainly would never go ahead and credit someone else with playing the part. And at the end of this particular Five-0 episode it clearly says "John Howard as O'Hara". So, yeah, case closed.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Thursday, February 04, 2010 at 08:19:16 (PST)
Elisha Cook, Jr. appeared in several episodes of Magnum, P.I. in the 1980s. It shouldn't be too difficult to check these episodes and confirm that the part in Hawaii Five-O was NOT played by him. Why wouldn't Cook be identified by his own name in the end credits of the Five-O episode if it was?
Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 15:10:21 (PST)
If the BBFC pass all 23 eighth season episodes and any possible Jack Lord episodic promos before May, then season eight will definitely be coming out in May (as stated on Amazon.co.uk and Play.com)..and I will be chuffed (pleased), because in the UK we'll get the 7th and 8th seasons in the space of seven weeks (the seventh season on 22nd March and the eighth season on 10th May).

Regarding the Jack Lord episodic promos, if there aren't episodic promos for all 23 episodes from season eight I hope there will be one included for (some of these I've seen, some have interesting sounding episode titles, and some I've read about in the Epi-Log issue featuring Hawaii Five-O, and the Karen Rhodes book)...

"Murder - Eyes Only" (because it may have a longer episodic promo because it's the first episode since the pilot movie Cocoon to be a feature length episode, and the first season DVD set had no episodic promos at all on it, including for the pilot. Also two of my favourite TV and film actors, Harry Guardino and Lloyd Bochner guest starred)

"Termination with Extreme Prejudice" (guest starring Dan O'Herlihy who was in two of my favourite films from the 1980's, Halloween III: Season of the Witch and Robocop. He also appeared in a one season only series called Whiz Kids, which I hope makes it onto DVD one day, because one episode had Jameson Parker from Simon & Simon guest starring as his character AJ Simon)

"Target? The Lady"
"Death's Name is Sam"
and "How to Steal a Submarine".

Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 14:01:27 (PST)


"The entry for season five, show 117, should be corrected accordingly." -- There's nothing to correct there. Elisha Cook, Jr. ("Ice Pick" on Magnum PI) never guest-starred on Five-0. That was actor John Howard who played O'Hara at the beginning in "Percentage". Here is the IMDB cast list for that episode: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0598119/fullcredits#cast. Like Cook, Howard was also a popular character actor back in the 40s. He was in "The Philadelphia Story", among many other films.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 12:43:18 (PST)
I'm positive that the character "O'Hara," seen at the beginning of show no. 117, "Percentage," is played by Elisha Cook, Jr. Cook played Wilmer, the "Gunzel," in the movie "The Maltese Falcon," and also had bit parts in the original "Perry Mason" TV series and elsewhere. I'd know that voice and face anywhere, even though he had aged a bit by 1973!

The entry for season five, show 117, should be corrected accordingly.
Henry Schmidt
Allentown, PA United States - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 12:10:24 (PST)


I did get the chance to see the first, second and third season later on as a young adult. I thought the Hawaii five-o show was authentic, interesting, precious and a never a dull moment kind of stuff. This is what happy dreams are made of! I think o'laughlin may not be the ideal specimen for this lead role I think you may want someone who gives out intelligence, cool, sensuality and skills to fit the breathtakingly handsome part of dear Jack lord. Wow! Icannot believe I said that. Good LUck!
Gina Thomas
Glen Oaks, N.Y Queens - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 11:57:56 (PST)
I don't know if I'll have time to watch an episode today, but go ahead and surprise me, H50, watch an episode and write about it if you feel like it, and if I have anything relevant to add(a big if), I will.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 11:48:18 (PST)
I'm with you and Wavecrest, Chris, although my crack about snow in Hawai`i didn't cause so much as a ripple. What from H50 1.0, Season 7, shall we watch today, gentlemen?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 11:15:05 (PST)
I have to agree with Wavecrest, I prefer talking about the original. I have a feeling season eight will spark a resurgence of that type of discussion, at least I hope so. In the meantime, maybe I'll rewatch a few season seven episodes, just so I'll have something to post about.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 10:04:15 (PST)
"Well, let's hope it's not as crappy as Knight Rider, Charlies Angels, TJ Hooker, do I need to go on?" - Whoah, whoah, whoah, whoa, Big H! Hold on a second. Knight Rider was vintage 80s TV show - 80s at its absolute best! Unless you're talking about the remake. Same with Charlie's Angels - classic 70s! Unless you're talking about the movie remake. As for T.J Hooker - again another 80s classic from THE SHAT! And as for remakes there haven't been any. Bottom line - if the new Five-0 is even 1/4 as good as those aforementioned shows (yes they were cheesy, but in a good way) then that'll be something remarkable.
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 09:54:32 (PST)
Re: "If you go to that Parker Ranch website you'll see the snow-capped mountains in the background." - - Just when I had dreams of selling my winter coat and moving to Hawai`i. Shucks! No fair! LOL
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart and winter coat will be going to, HI - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 09:44:24 (PST)
"It's just another crappy TV show which will soon be forgotten." Well, let's hope it's not as crappy as Knight Rider, Charlies Angels, TJ Hooker, do I need to go on? We've really got to have a 2.0 that we can stomach regardless of how much it stimulates the Hawaiian eco...
Big H
Raleigh, NC USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 09:11:44 (PST)
"aaah c'mon people. It is a TV show. it will not upon its first appearance make all your dvd and vhs copies of the old H50 go up in smoke a la Mission Impossible." -- couldn't have said it better myself, Kimo. To be honest I don't like remakes/reboots of any kind - I believe everything has a proper place and time in the order of things. And to somehow recapture all that is a fool's errand. I was even against this remakes when Ed Bernero was on-board. But heck, if it'll help the Hawaiian economy then shoot... why not? And I might even tune in from time to time to at least check out the scenery/locales that I've learned so well from my last trip there back in '08. So yeah, at the end of the day it's just a show. It will never replace the original in any way, shape, or form. And it certainly won't cause our DVDs to go up in smoke... POOF! From what I see here I can almost picture some of you guys/gals pacing back and forth wearing a hole in the carpet out of all this angst. Relax folks. It's just another crappy TV show which will soon be forgotten. And it will air whether we like it or not. Yeah, I know.. I sound pessimistic. But c'est la vie...
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 08:46:25 (PST)
So I guess "We Hang Our Own" is yet another eppie that was filmed on the Big Island. If you go to that Parker Ranch website you'll see the snow-capped mountains in the background. Definitely NOT Oahu!!
ringfire211
Philadelphia, PA USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 08:35:56 (PST)
I'm hoping there will be discussion on the guestbook when the eighth season Region 1 DVD boxset is released in six weeks time, as at the moment the new Hawaii Five-O is dominating the discussion.
Wave_Crest
United Kingdom - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 07:45:06 (PST)
CORRECTION: DMS is the curator at the James MacArthur Fan-Official Discussion List Site.

Also, as I previously posted, he was asked the following:

> Ok, i have to ask, is Jim in it, in anyway??? As a guest even?

No, at least not as things stand now.

> Did Jim like the script too?

Yes, very much.
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 07:25:19 (PST)


This is what was just posted on the "Hawaii Five-O Fan Club." I believe DMS is the administrator of the site and had an opportunity to read the pilot script of the new show. For those really die-hard, heels-dug-in fans of the old show, this won't make any difference to them. But for those who are at least willing to be open to the new show, it is an interesting read.

_____________________

Re: "New" new Five-0
Posted by: "mtboy11@aol.com" mtboy11@aol.com
Tue Feb 2, 2010 3:57 pm (PST)

That's pretty cool that you were able to see the script. When you say you think they finally got it right, can you be a little more specific? In what ways? Characterization? Scenery? Action? Plotting? Thanks!

PS...was that casting call sheet with the character descriptions accurate, or BS? I'm referring to the one that's been circulating on the web. Mr. Mike recently posted it on his Five-0 blog.

Thanks,
Jeff

_____________________

In a message dated 1/27/2010 8:56:13 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, curator@jamesmacarthur.com writes:

Hey, folks:

I was lucky enough to see the script for the new show this past weekend. I don't want to give anything away, but since there's been so much speculation about what's happening, I thought I'd post that this time I think they finally got it right.

This isn't "our" Five-0, but there's a lot that us old-time fans will like, and also a lot that new viewers can enjoy. There was nothing that really upset or annoyed me (unlike other remake scripts/story treatments I've seen). I'm a tough audience and was prepared to hate the script, but I just couldn't It's that good.

I sincerely hope this one gets filmed and that we all get to see it. I think it's gonna be a helluva good ride and it has a genuinely good chance of becoming a new series.

dms

P.S. And no, this is not Hawaii Five-0: The Next Generation!

_____________________

Re: "New" new Five-0
Posted by: "dmsvoltaire" curator@jamesmacarthur.com dmsvoltaire
Tue Feb 2, 2010 8:13 pm (PST)

--- In h50fc@yahoogroups.com, mtboy11@... wrote:
>
> That's pretty cool that you were able to see the script. When you say you
> think they finally got it right, can you be a little more specific? In
> what ways? Characterization? Scenery? Action? Plotting? Thanks!

All of the above. I liked the way the characters interacted with each other most of all. As I said before, it's not precisely the way we fondly remember, but it has a very similar feel. For example, there is real humor. Not heavy-handed, pandering, obvious, plodding (or -- God forbid - gross-out) humor, but genuinely amusing, spontaneous, situation- and character-appropriate humor. This is not a comedy or a parody, not by any stretch, and I never actually laughed out loud, but there were several spots that made me chuckle or smile. There were many places where I just had to go right back and re-read a scene immediately because I wanted to savor the delight it brought to this old fan. I could really *see* some of this stuff. It was the kind of stuff real people do in real situations. It reminded me a lot of the character interaction we so enjoyed in the first few years of the original series.
> PS...was that casting call sheet with the character descriptions accurate,
> or BS? I'm referring to the one that's been circulating on the web. Mr.
> Mike recently posted it on his Five-0 blog.

It's very accurate, in some cases word for word right out of the script. But again, I have to caution, it's far from the whole story. I don't know where it came from, but it is the real deal, albeit a mere hint of the script itself.

To answer two other questions posed here by other members (because I'm too lazy to go back and answer each post individually):

These are recharacterizations of Steve, Danno, Chin, Kono, the Governor (and a few more). This version changes some things about the characters themselves, but it doesn't change the premise of the actual show. Maybe that's why I like it so much. It's not any one individual component, but the sum of them, that makes it work. The balance among all the elements feels right. Just like the original.

Oh, and there is no Wo Fat this time around (at least not in the pilot). There is a powerful villain (of course), but, like all the other characters, he's not "our" Wo Fat. And he has a different name and country of origin, too .

dms

Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 06:52:57 (PST)


Yes, KD. The Farraday Ranch in "We Hang Our Own" is a thinly disguised version of the Parker Ranch. I don't know if it is actually as large as the Farraday Ranch was said to be ("the largest ranch in the world at 200,000 acres"), but I know it is very large. It is located in the Waimea/Kamuela (northwest/north-central) part of the island.

For more information, check out http://parkerranch.com/Parker-Ranch/160/about-the-ranch
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 at 04:43:49 (PST)


"What a riot it would be if this bunch ever met in person. ROFL" we would be throwin maitais at each other as fast as we'd be drinkin' em! ROTFLMDAO
Kimo
- Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 23:52:10 (PST)

"a ranch was shown.'
aaahahahaaaha!
"a ranch"
hmmm.. "Lord, what fools these mortals be!"
(A Midsummer's Night's Delirium of Moku O Keawe)

can ya try;
"THE ranch"... in the future. thanx. much obilged.

Kimo
the drunk, leading the blind. oh, what a mess... - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 23:14:59 (PST)


"That is a great example of what I had been talking about, about male-female. Because I always found Hawaii Five O to be an exceptionally male show, ..."

The quote belongs to Ed Bernero from the 'Terrifying TV' interview on Deadline.com Jan 06, 2010
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 22:42:15 (PST)


Re: "...Nota Bene, Rick..."

Spot on, H50 1.0 Forever.
Steve's Girl
Germany - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 22:20:37 (PST)


In "we hang our own", which i saw this morning to detox from the new Five-O; a ranch was shown. I would like to know if anybody has any idea where that is exactly and is it still there? Most likely it has been torn down if it is a victim of the alarming trend to bulldoze,tear down and build malls.
Kimo? KD MCG

Hawaii, five six,seven,eight - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 21:03:02 (PST)
hahahahahah @ Chris.....nope but i haven't laughed this hard in a while...his agent should work this hard!!!

I just like the guy and feel he would be better
KD
i, am not Casper the Ghost either! - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 20:51:08 (PST)


I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I have to wonder, is KD McGarrett really Casper van Diem? Casper is sometimes spelled with a K, and the D speaks for itself. If not, he should definitely see about getting himself on the guy's payroll, hell, van Diem's press agent probably doesn't work that hard.
Chris
Columbus, OH USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 19:48:42 (PST)
Lively day on the guestbook. What a riot it would be if this bunch ever met in person. ROFL
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 17:55:05 (PST)
I believe I opened that can all by myself. (and I stand by my comments)
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 17:10:48 (PST)
Ok guys, you did open a can of worms. Women other than those who post in the guestbook do enjoy (read love) Hawaii Five-0 1.0, and not just for McGarrett being a man's man. McG (Jack Lord)was a big draw, the stories were good, often there were real life stories being presented in a fictional format, sometimes morals were taught, and wonderful Hawaii scenery was showcased.

Kimo, you're right about the show being a draw for tourists. My mother and I made our first trip to Hawaii in 2008 because we wanted to see the beautiful scenery we were seeing on the 5-0 1.0 DVDs; 40-year-old TV shows can still draw tourists. We visited several sites shown on 5-0 and went to the Kahala Mall to see the Jack Lord memorial. We stayed at the Ilikai but didn't get to visit "the" penthouse. I have some beautiful photos and memories. We're hoping to visit again this year. I hope you can get something set up to showcase Hawaiian crafts and talent at the Ilikai/or somewhere. I understand your desire for the 2.0 show to offer employment opportunities We'll hope that it does. Aloha and Mahalo!
50 lighthouse
Huntington, WV USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 16:55:55 (PST)


exceptions yea there were a couple that required terrain very different from Oahu.
Kimo
- Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 13:55:59 (PST)
Kimo, re: my statement, "I personally enjoyed 1.0 episodes that ventured to Maui and the Big Island. Did we see any other islands?" and your response, "You didn't even see those two!" - - Well, what about "Paniolo" and "A Hawaiian Nightmare"? Weren't they filmed on Maui and Big Island, respectively? If not, where were they filmed? I haven't seen any place on O`ahu that remotely resembles the scenes shown in "Nightmare," and the mountains are far steeper in "Paniolo" than I saw on O`ahu. Could you tell us where those episodes were filmed?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 13:46:58 (PST)
"they didn't showcase any of the outer islands in the old original series." Exactly my point. Isn't Hawaii the state comprised of ALL of the islands, not just Oahu? I find it unfathomable that all crimes (worthy of Five-O's attention)would occur only there. And I'm not preaching for showcasing the other islands "all the time," if the budget is truly your concern, Kimo. All I'm saying is...once in a blue moon would be nice departure for the new series.
Big H
the world can't, revolve around OAHU?!?! - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 13:43:22 (PST)
Maui
alternately pronounced
(mou`e)
(moue)

Kimo
- Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 13:07:39 (PST)
KD, re: the article about the writers (I never can remember their names) signing with Fox, what does this mean? Were they just hired to write the Five-0 pilot and now they're out? Five-0 wasn't even mentioned in the article.

FOX has nabbed them; it appears they are free agents and are about to write for another network. Um...what happened to Fringe? Anyone ;) ? lol so watch for Orci Kurtzman to re-boot more of the classics...

I think Five-O 1.0 did appeal to guys and gals alike; MCG wasn't a misogynist-he was just a man's man,but he was very very sensitive. Alex appeals only to a certain female demographic and that is what it is about-NOT about Five-0 per se-that is a mere vehicle. Alex has a certain charm but it is not the ruggedness needed. Watched "We hang our own" Jack just stands head and shoulders above the rest of the cast-he has a certain charisma.

Alex needs a different vehicle in which he would definitely excel. i am not denying his acting prowess just that he will never be MCG.

Pam-as you're admin for Alex's sites, maybe you have a way of pointing him to this site..lol
KD
no, no dont do it alex! - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 13:06:12 (PST)


", I personally enjoyed 1.0 episodes that ventured to Maui and the Big Island. Did we see any other islands? "

You didn't even see those two!
Kimo
- Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 13:03:03 (PST)


"about the new show. Grave concerns" aaah c'mon people. It is a TV show. it will not upon its first appearance make all your dvd and vhs copies of the old H50 go up in smoke a la Mission Impossible. It is being created to add hopefully another hit to a major networks roster, and a lotta green in the CBS coffers. They are not creating this huge undertaking, this expensive series for the sake of coddling a small coterie of fans of a show thirty years old. They will do the best they feel they can do with this for their own ends. And really, that's all they need to do. Many people's careers are on the line here, and they all are working to make this the best THEY know, with the modern tools they have and knowing their contemporary target audience. They are attempting to please many groups here. Shareholders. Advertisers. Studio heads and execs... etc. And until "we here" become a vocal majority of any or all of the aforementioned groups, we can and should do no more than enjoy our old copies of the H50 1, and hope for the best. And join in the hope of all us here in Hawai'i that it; 1; represents Hawai'i in a pretty decent light, 2. Moreso, it does shoot here and it is a long running show, thereby keeping many talented locals gainfully employed as well as retaining a fabulous spotlight on Hawai'i to the delight of millions aroud the world who just may be trying to decide upon a vacation destination. Because those are the only "grave concerns" we here are occupied with.
Kimo
- Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 13:01:15 (PST)
Mahalo, Kimo, for the instructions for ending correspondence properly.

Re: not filming on other islands, although I understand the concerns with cost and time, I personally enjoyed 1.0 episodes that ventured to Maui and the Big Island. Did we see any other islands? Some time back, someone mentioned Kaua`i. In which episode was it featured?

While we're at it, Kimo, would you please tell me the proper way to write and pronounce "Maui"? First, is there an okina between the u and the i? Second, is it pronounced "mow-ee" or "mah-wee"? Mahalo!
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:50:26 (PST)


I know what you're saying, Rick. I just couldn't resist. The 1.0 guys were just so-o-o cute. This is the sad part about the Web: You couldn't see that I was laughing the whole time I wrote that - but I was! And you're right about the new show. Grave concerns here, too. I guess it comes down to wait-and-see.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:41:38 (PST)
Hfive0onepoint0forever: I acknowledged some women like the original. That's not the point. The point is the new show, if skewed to the female viewer. And the casting of Alex O along with the Ed Bernero interview tells me that it probably is. That the new show will not be anything like the original. I don't think I'm going very far out on a limb with that statement. ...you keep telling yourself you're not coming back to this page?
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:21:17 (PST)
"if they do film it in Hawaii, I hope they get off of Oahu more often. Let's see some more of the other islands!!" Why? it's not a national geographic travelogue to any degree They are not in the business of showing other locales, just using Oahu's locales as b.g. for the Hawaii action. That move would cause added unnecessary expense to the budget and add more time to the very tight shooting schedule. No. They will not have any want or need to do that. It is wholly unnecessary. ""original" but keep the spirit of the old," they didn't showcase any of the outer islands in the old original series They sure wouldn't need to now, for no reason.
Kimo
- Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:18:26 (PST)
"He's got a hitch to his getalong that just won't stop." da heck?!

"Shall I continue, gentlemen?"

H1F, the proper way for a haole to end a post is usually "mahalo"
Kimo
- Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:16:56 (PST)


Meaning no disrespect, Mike, but your ZIP codes are getting me down.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in HI, but my ZIP code isn't in, HI - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:12:03 (PST)
Re: Big H's statement, "There are soooo many ways they can make this show "original" but keep the spirit of the old, if they just think about it...."

I think you're right. The question is will they take the time and make the effort? After all, it's a whole (what?) 75 miles to Maui? I hope McGarrett's wearing a parachute. I'm not sure this series is going to get him there.

Practice your backstroke, McGarrett.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:11:09 (PST)


RICK, RICK, RICK.....You've opened a can of worms here! H50 10 Forever...couldn't have said it any better!
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:07:37 (PST)
KD, re: the article about the writers (I never can remember their names) signing with Fox, what does this mean? Were they just hired to write the Five-0 pilot and now they're out? Five-0 wasn't even mentioned in the article.
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:06:04 (PST)
RICK posts: "I know there is a group of women that post here who are passionate Five-0 fans. But outside of this guestbook I believe female fans are in the minority."

Huh?? In the minority where??
Barbara
Chicago, IL USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:04:12 (PST)


Gee, Rick! I keep saying I'm not coming back to this page. Then, I do and read something like you wrote: "The original Hawaii Five-0 1968 which is the reason I visit this site, is a guys show." Well, here's my response: Nota Bene, Rick! Ya wanna bet? Women like Five-0, too, for some of the same reasons you guys like it. But not for all the same reasons. Without even delving into the beauty of Hawai`i and the challenging mysteries, let's talk about the characters.

Some of the details you guys might have missed are (1) Kono was a teddy bear. If he new Kono isn't a teddy bear, the show's going to have a lot of marks against it right off. (2) Ben had bedroom eyes. Oh, yeah! (3) Chin Ho reminded me of my uncle. I'll bet he took gifts of Chia Pets and sea monkeys to his young nieces and nephews, too! (4) Danno was just plain old-fashioned boyishly cute! (5) Gov Jameson was everyone's ideal of what an elected official should be. Like McGarrett, he stood up for his principles. Besides, I like his infectious grin. (6) Saving the best for last (and you knew I would get around to him), Steve McGarrett is every woman's ideal man. He's strong and intelligent, on the one hand, yet sensitive and vulnerable, on the other hand. He's got those baby-blue eyes and a shock of hair that insists on falling down over his forehead. He's got a hitch to his getalong that just won't stop. Shall I continue, gentlemen?
H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 12:00:31 (PST)


msI couldn't wait for the commercial DVDs, so I bought a complete series set from iOffer.com. I am very pleased with this set, as the prints used are network quality. Oh, and that 'missing' Season 2 episode is there, too. The set also contains the pilot in its original movie form, not the renamed "cocoon" two-parter. CBS makes almost pure profit from the DVD sales, since there are no cast members (but one) to share the revenue with. However, I'm glad the sets are selling briskly.
Richard Perez
Norton, MA United States - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 11:42:29 (PST)
Alex O is already "on the shelf" at CBS. They are paying him not to seek work elsewhere, and will use him before they go out and "buy" another actor. I believe that casting Alex O as McG was as much a financial decision as it was a creative one. And I think the decision was most definitely made by a female. Alex is, as Big H put it, a Hollywood pretty boy. Don't know about the rest of you gents, but I think Alex O has ZERO appeal as an ACTOR. And that's the problem. You see, men liked Jack Lord. I don't believe for a minute the same can be said for Alex O. Read the comments on that YouTube link that Kimo posted. Page after page of women getting the vapors. The new show cannot succeed with a female audience alone. If it did, that would mean they turned Five-0 into "ER" or some vampire romance drama. I know there is a group of women that post here who are passionate Five-0 fans. But outside of this guestbook I believe female fans are in the minority. The original Hawaii Five-0 1968 which is the reason I visit this site, is a guys show. And it is unlikely that the new Five-0 will even remotely resemble the original. They just don't make TV shows like that anymore.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 11:27:35 (PST)
http://screenrant.com/kurtzman-orci-development-deal-fox-tv-benk-43854/ They are annoying me now they are rampant everywhere..
KDMCG
no, noN nah - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 11:08:57 (PST)
I just watched 1.0 and I have decided that i won't be watching the new version. Maybe the pilot out of curiosity, but since it is likened to Miami Vice it doesn't interest me. BIGH- MCg wishes he was in Maui!!! lol
KDMCG
Hawaii, thats a no no! - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 10:43:09 (PST)
Kimo says."I don't think the 'powers that be' would choose Alex if they didn't think he could convey what the script calls for." I personally think the "powers that be" are going to write a little more romance into McG's life this time around, ergo they pegged this Alex O for the role (a Hollywood pretty boy). I think the CBS powers realized awhile back that no matter who they cast for McG, they weren't going to please all the H50 purists. Let's face it, we all have our fav to be the new McG. Bottom line for me is....if they film this thing in Hawaii (as opposed to the backside of Puerto Rico or Tahiti), then I'm gonna watch it, even if it's horrible. And if they do film it in Hawaii, I hope they get off of Oahu more often. Let's see some more of the other islands!!! There are soooo many ways they can make this show "original" but keep the spirit of the old, if they just think about it....
Big H
Catch a plane to , Maui, McG!!! - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 09:26:59 (PST)
i still think this guy would do a better job...

http://bit.ly/a0BQY5
KDMCG listen, up cbs! - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 07:22:30 (PST)


Kimo-these covers seem like they are hurriedly put together. There is no care or attention lavished. As we once discussed a long time ago, photoshop and other programs allow much more creativity than this.

Maybe they should ask fans for input. Oops that would be sacrilege hahah
KDMCG
Hawaii, covers suck - Tuesday, February 02, 2010 at 06:20:35 (PST)


Gawd. season 8 Steveo doesn't even look like him. More like a double or a stand in.
Kimo
- Monday, February 01, 2010 at 22:19:03 (PST)
http://tiny.cc/viDVp Enjoy
KDMCG
Hawaii, Five i dont know! - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:53:59 (PST)
PAM...thanks for your post. I think you made some very valid points. Jack Lord will NEVER be replaced. I think it would be a disservice to the show for someone to try to imitate him in any way. Alex would do well to take the heart of the character and be respectful to the character's history. In our excitement about a remake proposed by Ed Bernero, I think we all had an idea of what that show would be like. And then we were hit with a whole different direction. It's jarring.

Like most of us here, we are not entirely familiar with Alex O'Loughlin or his work. He seems far younger than the actor we thought would portray McGarrett. Having said that, I think KIMO was spot on when he posted the following: He might do after all.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLKKUNJsFZo Just bever seen him in anything that I can remember.....

I also think that KIMO was right he wrote: We must pull out all the stops for this one. IF.. anyone out there has one iota of care for Hawai'i, please support the efforts of any production that brings Hawai'i into the limelight.

I was not happy at all when I saw the character breakdowns because it sounded like a different set of characters who just happened to have the names of the Five-O staff. And I'm still trying to wrap my head around what they are going for. But without having seen ANY footage or any further information, it's hard to make a judgment about what will be. I say let's give the show a chance.
Barbara Chicago, IL USA - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:47:13 (PST)


To Mike...I was kidding. (See I need the edit again!)
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:44:20 (PST)
...I was kidding.
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:42:31 (PST)
@RICK at least they may bag another for Five-0
KDMCG
Hawaii, no no - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:40:20 (PST)
Pam wrote a wonderfully balanced comment. I have to say I have no personal issues with alex. I just think CBS is betraying the memory of 1.0 that is all. I am sure Alex would be proactive in maintaining quality, but my concerns are that this show will just be a vehicle for him and that in itself may not be a wise choice. He would have his own interpretation of Mcgarrett, but why as McGarrett and why not somebody new? This is something I just don't understand.
KDMCG
I , m confused - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:37:20 (PST)
Both covers of Season 8:

http://www.customaniacs.org/forum/tv-show-scanned-covers/85009-hawaii-five-0-season-8-a.html

Mr. Mike
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:34:03 (PST)
***THIS*** How's that edit feature coming? [See comment for Sunday, January 24, 2010 at 17:31:27 (PST)]
Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:23:11 (PST)
The should help calm everyone's nerves
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/2010/02/01/2010-02-01_transformers_revenge_of_the_fallen_tops_razzies_nominations_as_worst_flick.html

Rick
Newport Beach, CA USA - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 17:12:41 (PST)
I'll admit I'm prejudiced; I've been a fan of Alex O'Loughlin's for several years now. I adored Jack Lord, watched "Hawaii 5-0" live (I'm 53 years old) and I will tell you this much: I would not want any actor to ruin the memories I have of this show. I'm very familiar with Alex' work, on several of his sites as Admin and mod, and I've seen the dedication he puts to a role, no matter how network politics bog it down.

If Alex O'Loughlin becomes the new Steve McGarrett, he will not try to be the one and only Jack Lord; no one can replace him. But, he will be serious about the quality of the show. I understand the fear of turning Hawaii 5-0 into CSI: Hawaii, but it won't be Alex that allows that, it will be CBS if anything remotely goes that way. And man, I'd be standing right next to all of you protesting the hell out of it too.

But..it'll never be the original show. Jack Lord and the rest of the cast were one of a kind. The original was magic. No one will ever fill Lord's shoes as far as I'm concerned. He was McGarrett.

Pam (Gothmyst)
Tarzana, CA US - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 14:14:03 (PST)
You make VERY valid points, Kimo. Just don't let Honolulu become another NYC or Toronto (where NYC scenes sometimes are filmed) or...well, you get the idea. Keep Hawai`i Hawaiian - PLEASE! Put the culture before the camera. Don't let it be lost behind lines and scenes that could have been set anywhere.

1.0 had a good combination of shows set on every point between Hotel Street and Kahala. They even dared to step out and show the Hawaiian anger over haole business interests stepping in ("A Lion in the Streets"). Those are the things that are Hawai`i, for better and for worse, but you've got to show the whole spectrum if it is going to work. You've got to have the rich yahoo who wants to get richer ("The Odd Lot Caper"), and you've got to have the alcohol or drug addict (oh, give me the name of one).

I don't see today's shows going into that much detail. They're too interested in special effects and looking cool. I'm not trying to incur the wrath of CBS or anyone else. I'm just concerned that today's programming does not dig deeper. The philosophy today, both on camera and in real life, is "all show and forget about the go; if it happens, cool." Digging deeper takes effort; it doesn't just happen. A lot of work went into having 1.0 dig deeper, and even it did not bat 1.000.

Again, that's my two cents worth.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 13:45:02 (PST)
"Re: "The plot says craggy and tenacious. He isn't craggy." . . . I agree. He's certainly not. "
If the script calls for it, maybe we see Alex actually IS.. an "actor" and he conveys craggy and tenacious pretty well for the purpose. We didn't see him craggy and tenacious before cuz maybe the scripts didn't call for it... I don't think the 'powers that be' would choose Alex if they didn't think he could convey what the script calls for.
I say give H50 redux a chance to be it's own animal. Of course, we can't replace the original H50. Of course, that is not its job. So why shoot this effort down? Think of it this way. There is a possibility the new series will also bring a swarm of adherents to appreciate the original who didn't know of it or never had much interest. Then this web page here gets an influx of visitors, and sales of the old series sees an upsurge...
We need the series. Any series for that matter. But this one is active and we here want to feed the efforts. We see too many possible Hawai'i productions get shot down just as we think we are winning them, only to see another tropical/resort destination win, from a larger tax credit, or less emotional or political turmoil going on... whatever. We are losing LOST. We must pull out all the stops for this one. IF... anyone out there has one iota of care for Hawai'i, please support the efforts of any production that brings Hawai'i into the limelight.

Kimo
- Monday, February 01, 2010 at 12:53:58 (PST)
"will get employment as a result of the show. That is the only benefit i see."
as with the original H50, any series which keep Hawai'i in front of millions of viewers on a regular basis is fabulous advertising for our islands. As with H50 back then, "we couldn't buy that kind of advertising power". We are, whether we like it or not, a state of the union. We, whether we like it or not are fairly wholly dependent on the tourist dollar for our economic health here. The original H50 was instrumental for bringing in constant flow of visitors those 12 years and it is safe to assume, it still does, (albeit too a smaller degree of course.) . A new series would, as a side effect, perform the same function. Also, it would show other production companies; well Hawai'i must be an ok place to shoot, the tax credit must be substantial as they claim, so why don't we chance it too!" We all here are hoping that this series acts as a commercial for "paradise" to act as a vacation destination... and persuade other indie and major productions to choose to film here.

Kimo
- Monday, February 01, 2010 at 12:11:33 (PST)
"We went to all the time and trouble to write CBS... is so far ahead of us, already made all such decisions. Our efforts were wasted. "
whoa. back up. This is not a communal effort. CBS owns the rights to the show. I think I would be very careful treading in this manner. This kind of noblesse oblige attitude may do more harm than good if one is seeking "co-operation" from a major network. I'm not trying to be rude or arrogant, just anticipating the reaction any uh... "large organization" may have... "who are these spoiled people? They haven't any idea! We haven't released any footage and already we're the bad guys and we've done irreparable harm and no one will watch!"

Kimo
- Monday, February 01, 2010 at 11:59:02 (PST)
Re: "The plot says craggy and tenacious. He isn't craggy." . . . I agree. He's certainly not.

Jack Lord was - on both counts. In the 1950s, he auditioned to play Bo Decker in the Broadway production of "Bus Stop." He was turned down, because his face was "too lived in" to play the part a man who has not yet experienced the world. And why shouldn't it have been? He went to work at the age of 14!

But, then, who among today's actors fits the description?

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 11:53:45 (PST)
I concur. Viewers don't matter anymore. Sad, but true. I would love to see a "people's network" where people matter.

Alex can not be Mcgarrett-unfortunately, might be career suicide again.The plot says craggy and tenacious. He isn't craggy. Jack Palance,Ray Barrett, Lloyd Bridges,Eastwood,Paul Schofield,Chuck Connors etc. That is the definition of craggy. Sorry, Alex is not. As somebody once remarked, don't know what goods Alex has on CBS, because must be pretty damning hahaha. He doesn't have chiseled looks and does not fit the character description.

KD
Hawaii, good luck for the economy! - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 11:12:35 (PST)
KD, I'll tell you what's chewing on me right now. We went to all the time and trouble to write CBS and others to let them know how we envisioned the new show and our concerns about the rumors we were hearing. Then, we learned that CBS is so far ahead of us that they've already made all such decisions. Our efforts were wasted.

I know CBS is a very large organization, and I know they can't hope to please each and every person with an opinion, but this venture affects a lot of people. As you said, KD, it's employment for a lot of people in Hawai`i. If it succeeds, it is gainful employment. If it fails, it's just another temp job.

With a more open and receptive attitude, CBS just might find itself with a program that both pleases the loyal 1.0 viewers and provides steady employment for a lot of people for a nice, long time.

Don't tell me this is the way it's done today. I know it is, and it is pathetic in every segment of this sagging economy and sick society. Whatever happened to the old saw "Two heads are better than one"? It still holds true, whether people today want to admit it or not.

So, there's my two cents worth! Aloha!

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 10:28:08 (PST)
Please read in reverse. Banter between the curator of James Macrthur's website and i.

Re: "New" new Five-0


I don't know why the sarcasm? "Isn't that a whole new ballgame"-actually no it
isn't. My point was simply that the plot needed more legs and tweaks and they
could have explained why Chin Ho was still alive. So no. i think you feel i am
on the attack and i am definitely not.

I had already left my comments. You do contradict yourself when you say no plans
for JM, because i do actually say "in the show." not the pilot.

And, that is all. It would be wonderful to see him as a villain or otherwise; I
respect JM as an actor and a great human being with a stellar acting repertoire
and attitude,but that doesn't mean i am not entitled to my thoughts hahah and I
don't have to watch...

Thanks for the wonderful input into all of this and again please believe me that
i have no axe to grind with anybody.

KD MCG

_______________________________________read this first___

--- In h50fc@yahoogroups.com, "dmsvoltaire" wrote:
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> --- In h50fc@yahoogroups.com, "kashcreative" wrote:
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> > The previous attempt could have worked if they did their homework and
re-wrote the script and re-worked the characters.
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> Gee, if they "did their homework," "rewrote the script," and "reworked the
characters," isn't that a whole new ballgame? What's left to "work"?
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> > I just hope Mr. Macarthur makes a cameo in the show.
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> There are no plans at this time for JM to have any connection with this
incarnation of the series. The pilot script, as it now stands, has nothing in it
that he could do. Moreover, as he has stated on numerous occasions, he doesn't
feel that he should participate in a new version of Five-0. It's his opinion
that it's time for new blood, time to move forward not backward. He is not
ruling out the possibility of participating in the future if something really
good comes along (maybe a juicy villain or something like that), but as of this
writing, there are no plans to include James MacArthur in this newest version of
the show.
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> dms
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KD MCG
Hawaii, Five .1.2.1.2..whatever! - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 10:15:42 (PST)
I welcome the fact that people on the island will get employment as a result of the show. That is the only benefit i see.
KD MCG
Hawaii, Five O - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 10:08:44 (PST)
If 2.1 makes it through 12 episodes, it will come close to setting a record for remakes. Twelve seasons? It surely will have to be good, won't it, and we know how good!

Kimo, old boy, dial it back.

H50 1.0 FOREVER
My heart is in, HI - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 08:59:40 (PST)
It seems Mr. O'Loughlin is the new Mcgarrett and that appears to have been the strategy all along by removing him from Moonlight; don't expect this series to run for 12 years I don't think i will be watching it anyway.
KD MCG
Hawaii, 5 no way! - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 06:49:13 (PST)
"I started crying as I watched us descending to land at HNL" Only time I cried in Hawai'i was when we were ascending... to land! whootaaah!
Kimo
my heart and lungs and spleen, and kidneys and sandy luau feet are in HI, and have been for 50 years. - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 02:50:39 (PST)
bad or good, da new one, 'oia ana no
I will watch it. and work it. Not because it, to any degree presupposes it's a replacement for our old friend, but at the least, an homage. and at the most, a great revenue and attention generator for Hawai'i!

Kimo
ainokea, ainokea and ya know, I don't give a kukae - Monday, February 01, 2010 at 01:40:55 (PST)
"but they are riding on the coattails of something that was wildly successful." which is fairly irrelevant to them, since more to the point, their job is to create a new successful series. That makes the current advertisers happy, that appeals to the current demographics.
Kimo
- Monday, February 01, 2010 at 00:19:37 (PST)

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