Ringfire, where are you?

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Ringfire, where are you?

Postby Mr. Mike » Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:18 pm

Finally there is a forum here where you can discuss any movies (yes, even James Bond, Star Trek, etc.) without any hesitation!!
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Re: Ringfire, where are you?

Postby ringfire211 » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:20 am

Haha, except now I have no one to discuss it with. :lol:

That and I'm fairly busy these days.

But for what it's worth my 2 favorite Bond movies are THE SPY WHO LOVED ME and LIVE AND LET DIE (both with Roger Moore) and my least favorite is QUANTUM OF SOLACE (with Daniel Craig). Overall I prefer the older (classic) Bond films. When John Barry was scoring them it was magic!!!

Connery and Moore are my 2 favorite Bonds. Brosnan was also a nice mix of Connery and Moore.
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Re: Ringfire, where are you?

Postby RickNewportBeach » Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:50 am

Ring do you have a favorite Bond theme song? I prefer the Connery/Moore era also. Everything about it. The locations, the cars, everything from that era. I have to say my favorite bond pop song is Nancy Sinatra's You Only Live Twice ...magical.
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Re: Ringfire, where are you?

Postby Mr. Mike » Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:41 pm

My favorite Bond theme is For Your Eyes Only, though Bill Conti is not my favorite Bond composer. It's the only theme where the singer is actually seen (and Sheena Easton is mega-hot!). Goldfinger's theme would be very close, since this is my favorite Bond movie. When it originally came out, I saw it four times.
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Re: Ringfire, where are you?

Postby RickNewportBeach » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:16 pm

That could be my second favorite ...For Your Eyes Only. Yes, Goldfinger is one of those movies that just seems to jump off the screen. Just huge, bigger than life, really. Everything a movie should be. I have no idea what movies have been made lately that could even compare in terms of capturing that kind of magic.
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Re: Ringfire, where are you?

Postby Jeff*H » Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:54 am

I'm a huge Bond fan, have had every release of them since the early VHS days, and even triple -dipped on them on just bluray alone!

I'm going off the rez here, but while my favorite film is FOR YOUR EYES ONLY and Moore's more grounded performance, my favorite Bonds are Daniel Craig and Timothy Dalton, the more serious interpretations, followed by LICENCE TO KILL, CASINO ROYALE and GOLDFINGER. Having said that, I honestly love most all of them in different ways, since each actor brought something special and unique to each interpretation. Moore is the one I have the most nostalgia for, Connery paved the way and set the standard for decades, and Brosnan nailed it in GOLDENEYE. Never cared for Lazenby, though I really liked that movie.

Favorite songs are from LICENCE TO KILL, GOLDENEYE and SKYFALL.

John Barry's best score for me was LIVING DAYLIGHTS. Loved GOLDFINGER too!

Favorite villains are Goldfinger, Telly Savalas' Blofeld, and Le Chiffre from Craig's CASINO ROYALE.
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Re: Ringfire, where are you?

Postby Johnny 6 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:41 am

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My FAV Bond is Goldfinger. Masterpiece of a film. The golf scene, the laser ready to destroy Bond, the fake gas when the soldiers pretend to pass out, the Fort Knox final scenes...Classic scenes Goldfinger. The Spy Who Loved Me probably 2nd as Roger Moore in his prime playing the role. Strong script and love the 007 car. Still have it somewhere. I always like when the officer asks the sailor sarcastically if he had a date. LOL! Probably like Sean Connery better than Roger Moore now but a close race. Dr. No is ahead of its time when you think about it. Jack Lord was in that one.
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Re: Ringfire, where are you?

Postby ringfire211 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:12 am

Rick,

You're right about Nancy Sinatra's "You Only Live Twice" - sublime song, pure magic! Definitely in my top 5! In fact that film has what I consider to be John Barry's all-time best score and quite possibly my all-time favorite film score!! Every track is just perfection - from "Capsule in Space" to "Mountains and Sunsets" to "Bond Averts World War III".

Alongside Nancy's song I would also place "Live and Let Die" by Paul McCartney & Wings - a real rocking piece and the first rock song to be used in a Bond film. A great way to usher in a new Bond - Roger Moore! It fits the film perfectly because the score by George Martin also has a really cool and funky 70s vibe to it, to match the blaxploitation and voodoo theme of the film. The song and score are a blast!

But to pick my favorite Bond song I'd probably call it a 3-way tie between Carly Simon's "Nobody Does It Better" (from THE SPY WHO LOVED ME), Sheena Easton's "For Your Eyes Only", and a-ha's "The Living Daylights"! Then Nancy's and Paul's songs to round out the top 5.
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Re: Ringfire, where are you?

Postby ringfire211 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:06 am

Mike, I'm quite the fan of Bill Conti's score for FOR YOUR EYES ONLY. Nobody did it better (pardon the pun) than John Barry but every now and then I enjoyed a bit of variety (whenever Barry needed a break) from the likes of George Martin or Marvin Hamlisch or Conti. They each added something unique. For instance Hamlisch gave us 2 superb tracks that I absolutely adore: "Bond 77" http://bit.ly/2auzwTD and "Ride to Atlantis" http://bit.ly/2aPSc2Z. Same with Conti - he scored probably my favorite version of the gunbarrel theme http://bit.ly/2ayQKgp and my favorite version of the James Bond theme http://bit.ly/2aMunb0

GOLDFINGER is of course a classic Bond film! I heard that when that film came out here in the states it kept playing round the clock non-stop and that there were crazy long lines with people wanting to see the film again and again. Especially in Times Square in New York the lines extended for blocks and blocks. That really was Bondmania at its peak - 1964 was the year of Beatlemania and Bondmania! It's funny that Bond actually makes a derogatory remark about the Beatles in that film. :lol: DR. NO and FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE paved the way for the perfectly blended concoction of espionage and fantasy that was GOLDFINGER. I know that some Ian Fleming purists feel that GOLDFINGER is where the series took a turn for the worse, leaving behind the more grounded espionage thriller and turning to fantasy. Personally I enjoy all sorts of Bond films (the more grounded as well as the more fantastical) but there's no denying that when you watch something on a grander scale like GOLDFINGER or YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE or THE SPY WHO LOVED ME you're just in awe of the sheer spectacle and brilliance and the technical achievement (remember that this was before CGI or green screens). This was the real deal! Throw in the exotic locales and the elegance that goes along with it all, coupled with the great music scores and the cinematography and you simply can't resist it. That's what made Bond films the success that they are to this very day. I was returning to the states from my trip to Ukraine a few weeks ago and on my Zurich to NYC flight I managed to see a total of 3 Bond films - FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE, GOLDFINGER, and FOR YOUR EYES ONLY (they were available on my flight). No matter how many times I've seen those films (and I own them as part of my Ultimate Edition Bond collection on DVD) I never tire of watching them again. It just takes me back to those magical times. Nostalgia at its very best! And while I enjoy the modern Bond films as well (even though SPECTRE was a bit of a letdown - yes, my issue is with Blofeld's storyline there) they just can't quite capture that magic of yesteryear. Yes, nostalgia has a lot to do with it. But also the times were different - Bond was just a cooler and more sophisticated character in those times. Also political correctness wasn't an issue back then. Nowadays we have to tip-toe around these things. Bond girls need to be called "Bond women" (and even that offends some) and Bond needs to be given lots of backstory now because that's in vogue these days. He needs to be a conflicted hero now. This never was the case before and the films were better for it. Bond shouldn't be Jack Bauer. Let's leave the emotional baggage out of it.

My favorite Bond films? I love them all but if we were to go by decade then for the 60s I'd pick GOLDFINGER and YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, for the 70s I'd pick LIVE AND LET DIE and THE SPY WHO LOVED ME (big fan of MOONRAKER as well), for the 80s I'd go with OCTOPUSSY and THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS, the 90s belong to GOLDENEYE (in many ways the last film in the true Bond tradition), and in our post-911 world I thought CASINO ROYALE and SKYFALL were standouts!
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Re: Ringfire, where are you?

Postby ringfire211 » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:31 am

Jeff,

Yes I too like all the Bond actors that have played the role EXCEPT George Lazenby. He really was a non-actor and it showed. He was the only weak link in an otherwise fantastic (and epic) Bond film ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE! Though to be fair for a guy who had absolutely ZERO acting experience (unless you count his chocolate commercials as "acting experience") I'd have expected him to be worse than he actually was. In the final scene with his dead wife he actually isn't half bad. Overall he was very good in the physical scenes that involved fighting but otherwise was pretty awkward when trying to be dashing or witty or sophisticated.

My favorite Bond villains would have to be:

1. Max Zorin (gotta love Christopher Walken in psycho mode with bleached hair)
2. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (the Donald Pleasence version)
3. Alec Trevelyan/former agent 006
4. Hugo Drax (who has the best villain line ever - "look after Mr. Bond, see that some harm comes to him")
5. Dr. Kananga/Mr. Big (played by Yaphet Kotto)

You'll notice that 3 of those 5 villains appeared on Five-O! :) Many other fantastic villains that didn't make my top 5 like Scaramanga, Dr. No, Goldfinger, Kamal Khan & General Orlov, Raoul Silva, Elliot Carver, Stromberg, etc. And these are just the main villains, I didn't even mention those awesome henchmen/femme fatales.
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Re: Ringfire, where are you?

Postby Jeff*H » Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:27 am

Great choices, Ringfire!

Sean Bean's 006 was one reason I love Goldeneye so much, along with the Tina Turner song, Brosnan's best performance, and Famkke Janssen (see below).

One of the reasons I love For Your Eyes Only so much is because of that fantastic music score by Bill Continue, Plus I watched that film at least a dozen times in the early 80s when it was playing over and over again on Showtime.

My favorite henchmen are Oddjob, Jaws from " Spy" only, Xenia Onatopp, and Rosa Klebb.

Makes me want to watch them all over again!
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Re: Ringfire, where are you?

Postby ringfire211 » Sun Aug 07, 2016 3:40 am

Jeff,

Sean Bean was spectacular as 006! He was the go-to-guy to play villains at that time and was especially a hot commodity after his superb turn as the IRA terrorist Sean Miller in the Tom Clancy-based thriller PATRIOT GAMES (1992, with Harrison Ford). As for Famke Janssen, have mercy, what a dish!! Easily the best and craziest henchwoman/femme fatale in the entire series. And what a name! "Onatopp?" asks Bond. "Onatopp" she replies. :D And her death scene is just classic! "She always did enjoy a good squeeze". :P

When it comes to the evil henchwomen I'm also a big fan of Five-O alum Luciana Paluzzi as Fiona Volpe in THUNDERBALL (oh my!), Karin Dor as Helga Brandt in YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE ("Mr. Osato believes in healthy chest"), Caroline Munro as Naomi in THE SPY WHO LOVED ME ("such lovely lines, what a handsome craft"), Grace Jones as May Day in A VIEW TO A KILL (what a bizarre look she has but it totally works in tandem with a wacko like Walken), and while I'm not a huge fan of the unofficial Bond film NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN you gotta admit that Barbara Carrera as Fatima Blush is the absolute best thing about the film! A shame she wasn't in an official Bond film. Actually Klaus Maria Brandauer as Max Largo was a very good villain too.

As for henchmen, as you said, Jaws (early SPY WHO LOVED ME, he was too cartoony in MOONRAKER though I love the film) and Oddjob have to be at the top of the list. Also Robert Shaw was superb as Red Grant in FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE (the tension on that train was so thick you could cut it with a knife), Mr. Kidd and Mr. Wint are probably the most off-beat pair of characters in the whole series but I absolutely love them in DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER, also you've got Kananga's whole entourage of Tee Hee, Baron Samedi, and Whisper in LIVE AND LET DIE, then OCTOPUSSY has some great ones with the strong and silent Gobinda (Kabir Bedi) and the knife throwing circus twins Mishka and Grishka. I also thought Mr. Hinx (Dave Bautista) was the best thing about SPECTRE!

As for my favorite Bond girl (good girl) there's so many to choose from but I gotta go with a toss-up between Jane Seymour's Solitaire in LIVE AND LET DIE and Barbara Bach's Agent XXX in THE SPY WHO LOVED ME. Those also happen to be my 2 favorite Bond films.
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